The Doors' female bassist - has no one ever come forward?
Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:27 PM
Have any of the Doors ever even fleshed out the details of where they found her, how long she was with the band - obviously, she wasn't a member but I imagine she must have at least rehearsed with them a few times, if only to learn the songs. Did she play any live dates with them, what did she look like, how old was she, etc.?
What a lost opportunity - not just for the lady personally, I'm thinking more of the standing of "women in rock' in general. To have a female instrumentalist as a member of an all-time great rock band, that would've been significant, IMO. Not moreso than say Grace Slick or Janis Joplin obviously, but still important and influential.
Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:15 PM
Hal Blaine supposedly played on Light My Fire instead of Densmore.
Maybe she had a few axes to grind....
Posted 05 June 2013 - 06:02 PM
I got the idea that maybe she was a friend of a friend who happened to be available. But I don't know. And we're running out of people to ask.
Posted 05 June 2013 - 06:20 PM
Here's an article on the Wrecking Crew in case anyone is not familiar with their story: http://www.musicrada...n-giants-472804
[I wish that documentary could get funding and be released! It sounds excellent.]
Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:47 AM
Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:29 PM
Edited by ChrisN, 06 June 2013 - 03:33 PM.
Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:20 PM
Posted 06 June 2013 - 05:33 PM
I wonder what she meant by saying John Densmore was the only good guy in the group - maybe the others weren't nice to her or it's a bad translation.
How cute was she in her white go-go boots
Edited by Shelby68, 06 June 2013 - 05:35 PM.
Posted 06 June 2013 - 05:41 PM
Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:28 PM
Patricia Hansen playing bass on this 1965 demo.
A very early and different voice with Jim singing.
Edited by Texasky, 06 June 2013 - 06:42 PM.
Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:35 PM
The band that recorded the demo was not the Doors, however, but Rick & the Ravens. The 1965 demo features Jim Morrison on vocals, Ray Manzarek on piano and background vocals, John Densmore on drums, Rick Manzarek on guitar, Jim Manzarek on harmonica and Patricia "Pat" Hansen (née Sullivan) from Patty and the Esquires—the band she had with Chuck Hansen, whom she later married—on bass guitar. After the demo was recorded, the band tried to pass it around. Both Jim and Rick Manzarek were disappointed in the response to the demo—additionally both of the Manzareks, along Sullivan, were not impressed by the new Morrison songs—and subsequently the Manzarek brothers, sans Ray, quit the band, stating they felt the band was "going nowhere fast".
In other words, the songs were cut before both of Ray's brothers left the band and Robby Krieger joined from the Psychedelic Rangers in October 1965. Psychedelic Rangers drummer John Densmore had joined Rick & the Ravens earlier the same year, in August. Krieger never played in Rick & the Ravens, though. At Morrison's suggestion the band changed its name to The Doors a month after they had recorded the demo, shortly prior to Krieger joining the line-up. The Doors was thus initially a quintet, but when Manzarek decided to handle the bass duties with the newly introduced Fender Rhodes PianoBass, Pat Sullivan was dropped from the line-up in December 1965, ultimately ending up with the "classic" quartet.
Posted 07 June 2013 - 03:04 AM
Edited by StupidGirl, 07 June 2013 - 03:13 AM.
Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:50 PM
."John is the only good member of the band"
."Patricia Sullivan and Manzarek brothers(Jim & Rick) no according of the lyrics of Jim"
Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:52 PM
It seems to me that if she was there in the August through till December then she couldn't have exactly been regarded as a full member of the group.
Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:53 PM
I don't mean to belabor the point, but I wonder if she meant good as in "he's the only good musician in the band" or did she mean, "he's the only nice guy in the band."
Thank you everyone for your clarifications. Wow, she was with them (the proto-Doors, or Ray & the Ravens) for 5 months - interesting. So it wasn't just like this mysterious woman who showed up one afternoon, recorded the demos, then vanished into the haze above L.A.
Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:56 PM
Ann & Nancy Wilson are incredibly important, IMO - but different era (1970s onward). The woman who sings on "Great Gig in the Sky" is Clare Torry. David Gilmour has praised her highly.
Posted 08 August 2013 - 05:57 AM
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