mina, on 26 June 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:
I decided to start a new topic, instead of continuing the discussion of Diane in the other topic of Woods.
I have a great book called The Doors. By The Doors with Ben Fong-Torres (2006). There are a lot of interviews, including from Diane. She tells, that she and Jim had an affair, and Diane was his muse to some verses in L.A. Woman. Diane says, that Morrison wrote and drew often at her place. From time to time Jim lived in the apartment he had rented for Pamela, which located upstairs and Diane lived downstairs.
Diane found some texts, that Jim had written to her notebook. This was found in there "I just got her(e) about an hour ago, Looking around to see which way the wind blows, Where little girls in the Hollywood Bungalows..." We know those verses ended up as a little bit modified to L.A. Woman.
Diane says that she always played blues for Jim and "Into your blues, into your blue, blue, blues" was referring to that. D and P managed to remain friends in spite of the affair. Diane says that when L.A. Woman was published, Pamela said to her "Well, at least there was a one verse for me I see your hair is burning. That's all that existed".
There's also an interview from Michael Ford (Jim's longtime friend, a poet and a radiocommentator). He says, that L.A. Woman is about Los Angeles, but the initial idea to L.A. Woman came from Diane. He got an impression from Jim, that Diane was the secret muse behind that song. She seemed to be a person Jim respected the most, because she didn't care about the fame and the stars.
There are many interesting interviews in the book and there's more about Diane.
(hey, my mother tongue is not english, don't laugh!!)
edit: This book was published in 2006. Is Diane still around? Does anyone know?
Not all songs need a muse, and not even all songs that are about a woman need to necesarrily be based on a specific woman. Woman is woman.
Michael Ford can not state matter of factly that "L.A. Woman is about Los Angeles". What does the word 'about' even mean in regards to songwriting? I would think that a person such as Ford would be more careful with his word choice.
I assure you that English is my native language, and songs are never 'about' anything. Songs can mean something, but they aren't 'about' anything other than being about themselves. They fold in on themselves, like a dream within a dream.
Ford can not know that "the initial idea to L.A. Woman came from Diane", he can only speculate. You yourself even admit that Ford merely got an impression from Jim regarding all of this. Ford's comments are only comments on his own state of mind.
A song comes from God; it then goes into Jim's head, and then onto the paper.
We must ask, what is an 'idea' in regards to L.A. Woman? I don't think that there was one. The song just came about based on the fact that L.A. is where Jim is from and it was what he knew.
A. Los Angeles has existed since 1781. It was became part of Mexico in 1821, then in 1848 it became part of the US along with the state of CA.
B. Woman has existed since God put Adam to sleep, took out one of his ribs, and then made her from said rib.
C. Jim heard Blues in a lot of places, since the late 1940s and early 50s most likely. Jim based all his music on Blues, so there couldn't have been anything new from Diane regardless of if she had a habit of playing certain records.
D. When you say,
"Diane found some texts, that Jim had written to her notebook. This was found in there "I just got her(e) about an hour ago, Looking around to see which way the wind blows, Where little girls in the Hollywood Bungalows..." ,
I notice that you say 'Jim had written to her notebook'
. Such a thing makes no sense. Either, Jim had written to her in
her notebook, or Jim had written in her notebook, but not necesarrily to her.
Even if it was the former, and Jim had written these verses to her in her notebook, it doesn't automatically makes the verses about her or somehow for her.
Jim likely 'wrote to her' simply so he would not forget the words and so he would not lose the paper in all of his mess.
It is also possible that Jim came up with those lines before he even met her, but simply had not put them in order until around the time they met.
Sometimes a song is just a song. Looking too far into it can only reveal things about yourself....but it doesn't reval anything about the song or the author.
E. The fact that Pamela assumed that the song was about Diane does not therefore make such assumptions true.
It is disturbing that Pamela would choose to view the song in the way she did (i.e. Jim supposedly choosig to write about Diane instead of her).
"Pamela said to her "Well, at least there was a one verse for me I see your hair is burning. That's all that existed".
The truth is that Jim did not write verses about anyone. His songs were above and beyond it all.
Edited by Defiance, 26 June 2012 - 08:28 PM.