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#1 manhime

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:06 PM

Observations of America While on Trial for Obscenity

Was this poem ever published or is there a place to read it?

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 05:18 PM

View Postmanhime, on 12 June 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Observations of America While on Trial for Obscenity

Was this poem ever published or is there a place to read it?

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Sounds like it wasn't a poem at all, but rather an 'observation'.

Not everything Jim scribbled in his notebook is poetry.

Jim does not have to be a poet since there are other elements of him that are more important to his art.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:07 PM

Anyone?

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:18 PM

View Postmanhime, on 12 June 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

Anyone?
So no one knows where to buy or see this Jim Morrison writing?  IS any of his stuff from Paris Available?

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:48 PM

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So no one knows where to buy or see this Jim Morrison writing?  IS any of his stuff from Paris Available?

Who is to say if it is actually a Jim Morrison 'writing'? He did not finish it, therefore it does not exist. If anything, it is just notes. Jim didn't mean for you to see them.

It is not a poem.

P.S. Everyone knows you don't have me on block and can very well see my previous post.

Anyone? Anyone?

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 06:22 PM

View Postmanhime, on 15 June 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

So no one knows where to buy or see this Jim Morrison writing?  IS any of his stuff from Paris Available?
So I am guessing the Paris writing and notes are not available to the public (fans)

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:01 PM

I believe that it was an off the cuff comment he made during an interview, an idea he had to write an essay based on the  notes he had taken during the trial. I don't believe that it ever went anywhere.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:28 PM

View PostEncuentro, on 16 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

I believe that it was an off the cuff comment he made during an interview, an idea he had to write an essay based on the  notes he had taken during the trial. I don't believe that it ever went anywhere.
Thanks, and for the rest of the Paris notes?  Still in private hands?   Would like to see some of the poems ect from Paris

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:40 PM

View PostEncuentro, on 16 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

I believe that it was an off the cuff comment he made during an interview, an idea he had to write an essay based on the  notes he had taken during the trial. I don't believe that it ever went anywhere.
Jim loved the apartment in the Marais, the beautiful ancient Jewish quarter of Paris. The apartment was quiet and sunny, and he used ZoZo's desk for writing poetry, working on his project entitled "Observations of America While On Trial for Obscenity in Miami", starting the script of a rock opera, and writing letters to friends. Jim also loved the Marais. He would walk down Rue Saint Antoine with all those lovely shops offering fresh vegetables, fish and meat, bread and cheese. He bought cheese (strong smelling and tasty cheese from the Pyrénées mountains) at the little shop around the corner, Les Fils Pervrier (43 Rue Saint Antoine), and bottles of wine (preferably white Bordeaux wine) at Vin des Pyrénées (25 Rue Beautreillis). Vin des Pyrénées is now a restaurant using the same name as the vine shop before. (Metro: Rue Beautreillis)

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:54 PM

What is that excerpt from?

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:06 PM

View PostEncuentro, on 16 June 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

What is that excerpt from?
http://pioum.chez.co... DOORS FANS.htm

Seems Jim might of started this project.  Would love to see it

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:16 PM

Cool.  Thanks.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:22 PM

View PostEncuentro, on 16 June 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

Cool.  Thanks.
NP anytime.  Do you think is it possible he started it?  Maybe part of it is out there?

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:31 PM

It's  certainly possible. He had a lot of free time in Paris and wasn't drinking as much. However, after 40+ years, it seems unlikely, given that there is little evidence of its whereabouts should it actually exist, that it will see the light of day any time soon if ever.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 10:51 PM

View PostEncuentro, on 16 June 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

It's  certainly possible. He had a lot of free time in Paris and wasn't drinking as much. However, after 40+ years, it seems unlikely, given that there is little evidence of its whereabouts should it actually exist, that it will see the light of day any time soon if ever.
Well I read this somewhere.  I do not remember exactly.  If my memory serves me right.  Jim Morrison left his notebooks in a bag at a friends house.  They ran after him with the bag in hand.  Jim said something to the effect.  I will be back for them later.  Then Jim dies.  The books stay in the friends possession. Yet, Jim's will stated that everything goes to Pam.  Then Pam's family got everything Pam had.  The Pam Courson family sued or threatened to sue.  They made a deal with Jim's friends for the books or publishing rights.

I also read that the Courson's were planing a book of the last poem's ect.  Funny how that never happened.

I am surprised that some of these writings have not surfaced.  Jim's fans would love to read them.

I do not know if any of this is remotely true.  Just what I remember reading.  Maybe someone else can back this up or not?

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