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[queenhwy]

GG Morrison, on 01 May 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

This aspect of Jim's personality always fascinated me, that he didn't seem to care for the trappings of rock star fame, and didn't acquire lots of "stuff," at least not for himself.  And that he created his own image, didn't have a team of handlers, personal trainers, wardrobe people, etc, to tell him what to wear, where to live, etc.  Not like these manufactured American-Idol-ish pop stars today.

I completely agree.  I was stunned when I went the green motel and saw where he lived for a few years!  What a dump, but it fits with his non-materialistic lifestyle.  That is what fascinated me too!  And he never seemed as the years went on to acquire any of that "stuff", the trappings of fame.  For me, it is what makes him more real and relatable.

I remember hearing the Doors songs here and there on the radio in the 80's, but I agree that not until NOHGOA came out that it blasted Jim and the Doors onto a non-stop train. It was mandatory reading at my husband's high school for his English class.  Everyone had that book, it was on my parents bookcase for years.  I picked it up when I was 12 and was hooked!  Not until more cable exposure and then the internet did my love for the Doors/ Jim expand.  Otherwise, you barely got any info on bands except for magazines back then.  

Good topic!  It was interesting to read everyones perspectives.

[GG Morrison]

queenhwy, on 03 May 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I remember hearing the Doors songs here and there on the radio in the 80's, but I agree that not until NOHGOA came out that it blasted Jim and the Doors onto a non-stop train. It was mandatory reading at my husband's high school for his English class. Everyone had that book, it was on my parents bookcase for years.  I picked it up when I was 12 and was hooked!  

It WAS????  

Here, it would probably be on a banned books list!  

[queenhwy]

GG Morrison, on 03 May 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

It WAS????  

Here, it would probably be on a banned books list!  

I was surprised too!  My school would have banned it too!  And we only lived a few towns apart.  Maybe he had a cool liberal English teacher!

[Roughie]

My high school library had NOHGOA and The Doors by Tobler and Doe. I had them out all the time!

[jymwrite]

In the libraries around here books abt The Doors or Morrison usually disappear from the stacks.

[Roughie]

jymwrite, on 05 May 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

In the libraries around here books abt The Doors or Morrison usually disappear from the stacks.

I considered doing that, but seeing as I was the only one who ever checked those books out, I would have been the only suspect, so I didn't. Oh that and I was too much of a pussy to do so! hehe  

[GG Morrison]

I remember wanting to keep a book I found at the library.  I told the librarian I lost it and paid a few dollars for it.  

[flashing bliss]

I've heard it said he owned a property in the mountains and there was the lease on Norton.  Jim also liked muscle cars.  For someone who didn't want too much contact with his family, it wouldn't make sense to have an established address.  I also get the feeling he knew he might not e around for too long.   Just don't feel we should think of him as all ascetic when he had Pamela/Themis to keep and a large bar tab.

[flashing bliss]

Came across this passage yesterday in Johnny Rottens autobiography, 'No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs'.  It is from the 'Track by Track' chapter and concerns his antipathy toward bandmate Glen Matlock who, it seemed to John, wanted the Sex Pistols to be a teeny bopper group.

"SUBMISSION"

LYDON:   We were in Camden Town rehearsing at the Roundhouse for a small period.  The arguments between Glen and me became severe by this time.  Malcolm finally insisted we go to a small pub upstairs and sit down and work it all out.  We did.  We were given twenty quid to sit down and get drunk and put our differences aside.  The result was we both got along on The Doors.  The Doors was the common ground -- we found a band that we, shockingly, both liked.

COOK:   "Submission" had a classic riff that's been done millions of times before.  We slowed it down.  It was similar to that Doors' riff in "Hello I Love You," the Who's "I Can't Explain," and the early Kinks.  We made it more subversive.

This would have been April-ish 1976 and The Doors were still relevant to a couple of guys in the band that pretty much went on to change the British record industry.

[StupidGirl]

GG Morrison, on 26 April 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

Well, the Airplane morphed into a completely different band, despite retaining some original members, and this after going through a quiet period of their own for several years.  The Dead had few radio hits, and were rarely heard where I live.

I don't know, I think rock meant something else by the mid-70's than it did in the mid-late 60's.  All these bands evolved from the point at which they started, they HAD to, or they would be oldies acts in a very short time.



I agree that a lot of the idealism and adventuristic spirit of the 60's had chilled down, and more young adults became "responsible" and settled into more conventional lifestyles.  If there were "protest" songs going on about Watergate, etc, I don't remember them.  And in the 60's, protest songs and "message" songs were on the forefront.  The only artist I think of is Marvin Gaye and his "What's Going On" album.  But that album was really a continuation of the 60's outlook, as it was just 1971 or so when it was out.



I agree the Doors were at the top of their game when it all ended.



Yes, I believe these bands related to that dark side.  How they discovered relatively obscure--by then--music is a mystery, but then, they didn't grow up in Houston.  

ya know, just to let ya know, women don't think in terms of dogs of hell etc. we just simply fall in love with the words & voice.