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[*~adrienne~*]

I miss those two.

[GG Morrison]

Janet's here once in a while, haven't seen Salli lately, but then I'm not here every day like I used to be.

I always thought their perspectives were interesting, since they had that front row seat to the Doors behind the scenes and stuff.  I hope they stick around.  

[queenhwy]

GG Morrison, on 17 April 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Janet's here once in a while, haven't seen Salli lately, but then I'm not here every day like I used to be.

I always thought their perspectives were interesting, since they had that front row seat to the Doors behind the scenes and stuff.  I hope they stick around.  

I agree!  But they have taken a beating over the years and got sick of all the crap from certain members.  It is too bad.  I like a real
perspective from people who were there and knew the scene.  What about Mewiscal?  She's been MIA for a long time....

[giza]

much funny..

[jlo]

i have nothing but respect for sally, janet and salli. it really is sad that there are some who are so disrespectful to these women. they certainly don't deserve the kind of  treatment they get around here sometimes. -- just my opinion.

i wonder where shebang is too...

[GG Morrison]

jlo, on 21 April 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

i have nothing but respect for sally, janet and salli. it really is sad that there are some who are so disrespectful to these women. they certainly don't deserve the kind of  treatment they get around here sometimes. -- just my opinion.

i wonder where shebang is too...

Shebang was a stitch with photos.  

[GG Morrison]

queenhwy, on 20 April 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

I agree!  But they have taken a beating over the years and got sick of all the crap from certain members.  It is too bad.  I like a real
perspective from people who were there and knew the scene.  What about Mewiscal?  She's been MIA for a long time....

Mews is on FB once in a while, and I think she still has Rockphiles going on.  She also takes fabulous photos.

[manhime]

jlo, on 21 April 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

i have nothing but respect for sally, janet and salli. it really is sad that there are some who are so disrespectful to these women. they certainly don't deserve the kind of  treatment they get around here sometimes. -- just my opinion.

i wonder where shebang is too...

Can you explain who they are.  For the new people to this board.  Thanks

[GG Morrison]

manhime, on 21 April 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Can you explain who they are.  For the new people to this board.  Thanks

Hi, manhime!  

Salli interviewed Jim for Circus Magazine.  You can hear the interview on Youtube or in the Jim Morrison Scrapbook.

Mewsical (Sally) worked for Elektra Records when the Doors were still together and talked to Jim sometimes.

Mizscarlett (Janet) was a friend of Jim's early '71 or so, before he left for Paris.

[mizscarlett43]

GG Morrison, on 22 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

Hi, manhime!  

Salli interviewed Jim for Circus Magazine.  You can hear the interview on Youtube or in the Jim Morrison Scrapbook.

Mewsical (Sally) worked for Elektra Records when the Doors were still together and talked to Jim sometimes.

Mizscarlett (Janet) was a friend of Jim's early '71 or so, before he left for Paris.

Sorry, I seem to have hit the wrong button--it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet.

Salli hasn't been on, and won't be around  much for awhile yet, because she's up to her neck with family matters.

I haven't been on for awhile because up until recently the board seemed to have been hijacked by trolls and there was nothing worth responding to.

As for the Italian troll (Giza), according to Salli he's someone who got to know Frank when Frank was living in Italy, and Frank told him that only his (Frank's) stories about Jim were to be believed and everyone else was a liar. Something like that, anyway.

Which leads me to wonder--if Babe Hill were suddenly to surface and start posting here, would Giza attack him too?

Edited by mizscarlett43, 22 April 2012 - 03:13 PM.

[GG Morrison]

Giza probably grossly misunderstood Frank, I imagine.  

[GG Morrison]

mizscarlett43, on 22 April 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Sorry, I seem to have hit the wrong button--it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet.

Salli hasn't been on, and won't be around  much for awhile yet, because she's up to her neck with family matters.

I haven't been on for awhile because up until recently the board seemed to have been hijacked by trolls and there was nothing worth responding to.

As for the Italian troll (Giza), according to Salli he's someone who got to know Frank when Frank was living in Italy, and Frank told him that only his (Frank's) stories about Jim were to be believed and everyone else was a liar. Something like that, anyway.

Which leads me to wonder--if Babe Hill were suddenly to surface and start posting here, would Giza attack him too?

Miz, the last thing I heard from Salli was that she and her mom were sort of putting together the family history.  Her mom was in her 90's--do you know if she is still living?  This was over a year ago.

[mizscarlett43]

GG Morrison, on 22 April 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Miz, the last thing I heard from Salli was that she and her mom were sort of putting together the family history.  Her mom was in her 90's--do you know if she is still living?  This was over a year ago.

Yes, she's still here physically, but mentally not so much. I'd forgotten about the family history--Salli hasn't mentioned it in ages, but I would guess her mother is probably beyond being much help with that in any case.

Edited by mizscarlett43, 23 April 2012 - 02:41 PM.

[giza]

dear gg.m irwin has no one idea what she was talking about writing frank told me..it is just hilariously ridiculous That never happened..anyway you must to think that stevenson and irwin called frank a liar because frank said clearly that sugerman wasn't morrison friend..so you can easily understand..i hope but doubt.ehe..then..think that stevenson believed that lisciandro wrote me via email saying morrison was her close friend..ehe..this is hilariously ridiculous That never happened.stevenson wasn't morrison friend exactly like irwin it is just their imagination.i never known frank but met him some times like i already said you one time irwin.. you confuse know and meet they are two different verbs..for a full read go here,
http://www.thedoors....opic=21356&st=0

[mizscarlett43]

GG Morrison, on 22 April 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

Giza probably grossly misunderstood Frank, I imagine.  

Maybe. Maybe not--I'm thinking Frank may have had Danny in mind when he said that, if indeed that's what he said.

Frank's first book, published in '82 IIRC, was intended as a rebuttal to NOHGOA (1980) the sleaziness and darkness of which a lot of people (including me) blamed on Danny at the time. It wasn't until Salli and I started talking 15-16 years later that I found out it was mostly Jerry Hopkins' doing, that Danny had tried to "warm it up" and present a truer and more positive view of Jim but Hopkins* overruled him.
________________

*Hopkins' smarmy intro to AD&AD makes his hostility towards Jim pretty obvious, since Patricia Butler's "biography" of Pamela is at least as much a hatchet job on Jim as anything. IIRC it includes, among other nastiness,  the implication that the teenaged Jim had whored himself to Tom Reese, the gay proprietor of the Beaux Arts coffeehouse in Florida, in order to advance his career (!)

Reese was subsequently interviewed by somebody from the DCM and was quite distressed at the way Butler had edited and manipulated his comments so they gave an impression that was the exact opposite of what he'd intended.

[*~adrienne~*]

mizscarlett43, on 22 April 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Maybe. Maybe not--I'm thinking Frank may have had Danny in mind when he said that, if indeed that's what he said.

Frank's first book, published in '82 IIRC, was intended as a rebuttal to NOHGOA (1980) the sleaziness and darkness of which a lot of people (including me) blamed on Danny at the time. It wasn't until Salli and I started talking 15-16 years later that I found out it was mostly Jerry Hopkins' doing, that Danny had tried to "warm it up" and present a truer and more positive view of Jim but Hopkins* overruled him.
________________

*Hopkins' smarmy intro to AD&AD makes his hostility towards Jim pretty obvious, since Patricia Butler's "biography" of Pamela is at least as much a hatchet job on Jim as anything. IIRC it includes, among other nastiness,  the implication that the teenaged Jim had whored himself to Tom Reese, the gay proprietor of the Beaux Arts coffeehouse in Florida, in order to advance his career (!)

Reese was subsequently interviewed by somebody from the DCM and was quite distressed at the way Butler had edited and manipulated his comments so they gave an impression that was the exact opposite of what he'd intended.

Why did Butler even write the book? I mean to get money obviously, but what was her motive? I mean she'd never met Jim or Pam, right? Why the interest? I mean if I wrote a book on Jim it would be out of interest...I never really understood her motive.

[GG Morrison]

giza, on 22 April 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

dear gg.m irwin has no one idea what she was talking about writing frank told me..it is just hilariously ridiculous That never happened..anyway you must to think that stevenson and irwin called frank a liar because frank said clearly that sugerman wasn't morrison friend..so you can easily understand..i hope but doubt.ehe..then..think that stevenson believed that lisciandro wrote me via email saying morrison was her close friend..ehe..this is hilariously ridiculous That never happened.stevenson wasn't morrison friend exactly like irwin it is just their imagination.i never known frank but met him some times like i already said you one time irwin.. you confuse know and meet they are two different verbs..for a full read go here,
http://www.thedoors....opic=21356&st=0

See what I mean about miscommunication?    

[GG Morrison]

*~adrienne~*, on 22 April 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

Why did Butler even write the book? I mean to get money obviously, but what was her motive? I mean she'd never met Jim or Pam, right? Why the interest? I mean if I wrote a book on Jim it would be out of interest...I never really understood her motive.

That's what I can't understand, that she had this ready-to-go vindictiveness against Jim.  I reckon SHE had a hot guy who ran around on HER at one time.  

[*~adrienne~*]

Giza's english isn't too good GG  

[GG Morrison]

*~adrienne~*, on 22 April 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

Giza's english isn't too good GG  

That's why I don't think Giza quite understood Frank.  

No offense, Giza.