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[gc1966]

[Dawn Visitation]

Fitting song. Yes, Happy Birthday to Jim Morrison. =)

[Hagenees]

listening for the first time to "Other Voices" which I bought some weeks ago in Bruxelles but which I wasn't able to listen to since I only got back my fixed turntable tonight! And after that still gotta try my new singles box-set.....great night to celebrate Jim's birthday with a beer (or 2,3,4) and some "new" Doors music!    

Wondering whether Jim's remaining family members still consider this day as special...happy birthday anyway!

[queenhwy]

Happy Birthday Jim, where ever you are!

[Texasky]

queenhwy, on 08 December 2011 - 09:09 PM, said:

Happy Birthday Jim, where ever you are!

Yes,   Happy Birthday Jim on what would be your 68th birthday!

I have had a recurring dream over the years about Jim where he is living in the southwestern part of the US and he is riding an Appaloosa horse with a female who has long auburn hair to her waist (it isn't Pam).  He is singing ( I am not familiar with the song) and the sun is at an angle with a incredible blue, blue sky.  I can tell he is happy and I always have the feeling that this was his destiny.  I also have the feeling that he knows so much more about his life on earth and that he has made peace with it.  I have this dream about every two to three months.  His life has gone on.

[letsstealtheeye]

Happy Birthday Jim

[Pedro Kazit]

Ida Miller("Idafan" web) photo of this announcement of Jim´s birth, January 1944:  http://www.idafan.com/

[Queen182]

Texasky, on 09 December 2011 - 12:57 AM, said:

Yes,   Happy Birthday Jim on what would be your 68th birthday!

I have had a recurring dream over the years about Jim where he is living in the southwestern part of the US and he is riding an Appaloosa horse with a female who has long auburn hair to her waist (it isn't Pam).  He is singing ( I am not familiar with the song) and the sun is at an angle with a incredible blue, blue sky.  I can tell he is happy and I always have the feeling that this was his destiny.  I also have the feeling that he knows so much more about his life on earth and that he has made peace with it.  I have this dream about every two to three months.  His life has gone on.

What a lovely dream to dream!

[mizscarlett43]

Queen182, on 09 December 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:

What a lovely dream to dream!

I think so too, especially since I live in the Southwest, New Mexico has the most astonishing big blue sky 350+ days a year (Montana eat yer heart out) and I used to have long auburn hair.

Never cared much for Appies, though.  Arabs (or at least half Arabs like my late beloved Blue) were and are the only horse for me.


(Edited to change clear blue to big blue because the Montana state motto is actually "Big Sky Country," not "Blue Sky Country," but in any case either version could be New Mexico's motto as well. The sky here is extraordinary, to say the least.)

Edited by mizscarlett43, 10 December 2011 - 08:05 AM.

[gc1966]

Dawn Visitation, on 08 December 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Fitting song. Yes, Happy Birthday to Jim Morrison. =)

Yes,I stole it from God's Ipod.

[Dawn Visitation]

gc1966, on 09 December 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

Yes,I stole it from God's Ipod.

Good one & guess Australians are ahead of us all (beyond time & space).

Edited by Dawn Visitation, 09 December 2011 - 11:49 PM.

[jlo]

mizscarlett43, on 09 December 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

I think so too, especially since I live in the Southwest, New Mexico has the most astonishing clear blue sky 350+ days a year (Montana eat yer heart out) and I used to have long auburn hair.

Never cared much for Appies, though.  Arabs (or at least half Arabs like my late beloved Blue) were and are the only horse for me.

texasky, what a nice dream! your description is so serene...it sounds like jim is happy

i knew an appaloosa once, all he wanted was to be with people. but, it was his barn mate, a big chestnut that stole my heart. i would bring carrots to the barn and he would see my car coming up the long dirt road and run at a full gallop across the pasture to meet me. he was my love...

[mizscarlett43]

jlo, on 10 December 2011 - 02:06 AM, said:

texasky, what a nice dream! your description is so serene...it sounds like jim is happy

Yes, it does, doesn't it? and despite the flip tone of my earlier response, I'd better confess that I called Salli to read Texasky's post to her and choked up about halfway through.

In fact, if I'm remembering correctly Texasky was also a friend of Jim's but for the life of me i can't remember the details. . Maybe she'll share her story again? Please?

[jlo]

mizscarlett43, on 10 December 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

Yes, it does, doesn't it? and despite the flip tone of my earlier response, I'd better confess that I called Salli to read Texasky's post to her and choked up about halfway through.

In fact, if I'm remembering correctly Texasky was also a friend of Jim's but for the life of me i can't remember the details. . Maybe she'll share her story again? Please?

i second this texasky!  

[Defiance]

mizscarlett43, on 10 December 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

Yes, it does, doesn't it? and despite the flip tone of my earlier response, I'd better confess that I called Salli to read Texasky's post to her and choked up about halfway through.

In fact, if I'm remembering correctly Texasky was also a friend of Jim's but for the life of me i can't remember the details. . Maybe she'll share her story again? Please?

The dream of Jim being an arborist in an ancient grove of Cannabis trees seems more fitting. At least that way the activity (cultivating & harvesting weed) would lead directly to new songs being created, while simply riding a horse wouldn't exactly be musically productive.

What she describes was not Jim since he wasn't a cowboy and he didn't sing 'Country', but rather it is her internalization of him combined with her own life-circumstances (i.e. a Texan outlook). Her last line, "His life has gone on.", may not ring true for many of us who consider Jim to still be here. Where else is there? He ain't on Mars.

While I agree that the idea of Jim on a ranch is spot-on (since 'ranch' is code for a non-Liberal atmosphere), he would likely be doing the gardening with an emphasis on raising cacti. No one wants to see Jim fall off a horse he didn't have to be on in the first place and crack his head like Keith Richards did when he fell out of the coconut tree.

Edit for clarification: This cannabis that Jim oversees is fully legal Medical Cannabis since it is in CA. Jim has a Physicians Recomendation to use the herb to treat whatever medical condition that he may have and which the cannabis provides relief for.

Edited by Defiance, 10 December 2011 - 10:24 PM.

[Dawn Visitation]

When speaking of the dream Texasky shared, the animal symbolism in it. Best dreams are those with at least one animal in it, I think. I've only had two dreams of Jim ever since I became a Doors fan. My first one was many years ago, dreaming being in the audience at The Doors concert and from the left side, a horse walks in on the stage. Of course dreams usually have more to do with one's self than necessarly Jim but cool if he's there.

[Defiance]

Dawn Visitation, on 10 December 2011 - 11:31 PM, said:

When speaking of the dream Texasky shared, the animal symbolism in it. Best dreams are those with at least one animal in it, I think. I've only had two dreams of Jim ever since I became a Doors fan. My first one was many years ago, dreaming being in the audience at The Doors concert and from the left side, a horse walks in on the stage. Of course dreams usually have more to do with one's self than necessarly Jim but cool if he's there.

The horse did have a presence in Jim's album tracks, from 'insanity's horse' which 'adorns the sky' in 'I Can't See Your Face In My Mind', to the horses being thrown off ships to face drowning in 'Horse Lattitudes', to even the suggestion of a horse galloping in 'Not to Touch the Horse' [a horse's four hooves all leave the ground simultaneously when in a full gallop].

Take into consideration Jim's study of film, combined with the fact that the Western was the most popular type of movie throughout motion picture history (diverging from it in the 1980s though then picking back up with Lonesome Dove, Dances With Wolves, and Unforgiven in the 90s) and that the horse is an ever present thing in Westerns, we have a constant presence of this animal that Jim would surely recognize and replicate himself in his own work.

It does bear mentioning that 'Horse' is the nickname for Jim's preferred drug of choice, though I don't think he referred to it in song as specifically as the band America did in 'A Horse With No Name'.

Edited by Defiance, 11 December 2011 - 01:58 AM.

[Dawn Visitation]

Yes, it did/does. Must admit have never before paid slightest attention to the suggestion of a horse/s in 'Not To Touch The Earth' until now that is: "Dead president's corpse in the driver's car. The engine runs on glue and tar." Thanks.

Edited by Dawn Visitation, 11 December 2011 - 03:45 AM.

[Texasky]

mizscarlett43, on 10 December 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

Yes, it does, doesn't it? and despite the flip tone of my earlier response, I'd better confess that I called Salli to read Texasky's post to her and choked up about halfway through.

In fact, if I'm remembering correctly Texasky was also a friend of Jim's but for the life of me i can't remember the details. . Maybe she'll share her story again? Please?

Hey Janet,  just wanted to bring up this part of the interview with Frank L. where he describes Jim's sense of humor.  This is what I remember about Jim more than anything.  Even after all of these years I can honestly say, he was one of the funniest people I have ever known.  He loved to laugh and make me laugh...so much of his intelligence came through his humor. As I recall, whatever we were doing he would see the situation through humor.  He made me laugh constantly.  I was a young, sheltered college student and he loved to tease me.


Here's a passage from my interview with Jim's friend, Frank Lisciandro, where
he also fondly recalls how he and Jim would hangout with Elmer at the
Whisky Elmer definitely was a character:
What can you·tell us about Jim's sense of humor?
Jim liked to re-tell jokes and he often did tell jokes. This had mixed results, as with any of
us who aren't professional joke tellers. But he was the first one to want to tell a joke that
he had heard; he loved the idea of getting people to laugh. Maybe it was the perfonner in
him. And Jim loved to laugh. He was always ready to laugh at a joke, or a story, or a
funny incident that happened. And he was not shy about laughing at himself either.
. He was a funny guy; he was humorous. He didn't mind making a fool of himself, and he
would play the fool for the entertainment of others when he was drunk, or he would play
the innocent fool when he wasn't drunk.
Let me-jus: say that if you're around someone who was as spontaneous as Jim was, or
as well-known as Jim was, a lot of funny things would happen to you and around you.
I do recall the times that Elmer Valentine, the owner of the Whisky, would invite us
to come upstairs to hang out with him. Elmer was a funny guy. As I remember, he
was a former cop from Chicago who had come to the West Coast and decided he
wanted to be in the nightclub business .
.Elmer would say stuff to Jim to goad and provoke him, and Jim would come back
at Elmer, and before you knew it the two of them were exchanging witticisms. I
would join in once in a while, if they gave me some space and if I could think of
something fast enough [laughs}. Elmer was older than we were, he was probably in
-, his Iiffles back then, but he knew everybody in Hollywood and had been a cop. So
he had a vast storehouse of interesting and funny stories to tell and Jim loved
hearing them.
Jim would wisecrack a lot with people and maybe some people didn't get it because
maybe some of his humor went over their heads. Jim always had a great sense of
wordplay; you can see it in his poems and in his observations. The way he can twist
sometfJing around so that you can see both sides of it; and that's a fonn of humor, too.
Sure, there were times when Jim was a bit down or preoccupied, but of all the people
that were around us, Jim was often the most light-hearted of us all.
Jim was the one who was most inspired by humor and the one most apt to give himself
over to humor. Babe is also very funny. Babe loves jokes and telling jokes and saying
witty things.
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[Hamlet]

Hallo!- How did you know Morrison?