Defiance, on 07 December 2011 - 05:13 PM, said:
As we know, you twist all my words.
1. I never said that your article supports my argument that this isn't a public forum. Miz said that this wasn't a private forum and I responded that one does need to navigate to it. A hidden forum perhaps.
Also, I never said this wasn't a public forum. Dude. What I said, and please pay attention, was that this isn't 'in public' as a freeway billboard is.
I said that the line from your article, "The Court also found that the postings were made “in connection with an issue of public interest,” supports my argument that Cliff pretending to be Jim's son is not an issue of public interest, but rather, finding a way to stop him is a private interest in the name of Jim Morrison's memory. To allow this person to remain as 'Cliff Morrison' is to insinuate that there was something wrong with Jim's sperm (i.e. that it produced something below standard).
I wasn't really pointing out that filling in forms was typing. We were talking about 'typists' in particular. I pointed out how there is a position in the military called a 'typist'. His or her job is to fill in forms. I was merely showing how Hunter S. Thompson was not a 'typist', but rather that he was indeed a writer regardless of whether he used a pen or a type-writer. I wasn't referring to someone filling out forms in order to join the military. I can totally see how you are confused though.
I never said that Cliff wasn't in the 'same league' as The Doors. Way to follow along. What I was pointing out was that Cliff did not share any vocal characteristics with Jim Morrison and therefore is not his son. A real son of Jim would actually sound like Jim.
Jakob Dylan and Jullian Lennon sound like Bob Dylan and John Lennon, respectively.
Of course their music is not as good as that music of their fathers, but that isn't the point. The point is that we know they are related to the two men based on their voices.
What I know about Jim is that his music came from God. All one needs to know is God. Seek Jesus and you too will know Jim.
I never said I did not like Cliff's 'music'. I don't care one way or the other. It is what it is. It isn't Morrison-esque though. That is a solid determination with no opinion involved.
Regardless of the person observing, Cliff doesn't look like Jim. Period. There is no perspective. If someone thinks that he looks like Jim, then said person is delusional.
I never said anyone who believed Cliff was somehow lying. They are simply gullible.
You like to put a lot of words into my mouth.
On a final note, it would be a lot less absurd if Cliff was claiming that he was the so-called 'kindred spirit' instead of the son of Jim Morrison.
I think the only one twisting your words is yourself, as in contradicting everything you write to try to retract yourself whenever anyone proves you wrong, which is quite often. You claimed this is a private forum, which would obviously mean that you believe this is not a public forum. But now all of a sudden it's a "hidden" forum? And this is just as much "in public" as is a freeway billboard, as if you have no car or do not know anyone who has a car, you will not see the billboard, just as if you don't have Internet access, you will not be able to see this forum. And because of the fact that the entire world can read this forum, as opposed to the residential population that will see a given freeway billboard, or the handful of a students that attend a University to see a bulletin board at a college, this forum has far more visibility and thus, is far more outreaching in the interest of "public."
And from what it seems, you're the only one here not confused by what you write. You claimed that we are not writing because we are using a keypad to write what we say on here, and that we're not writing because we are not using pens to perform the act of writing. I merely stated by your logic, that you must think Hunter S. Thompson is a "typist" and not a "writer" because he used a typewriter to complete his manuscripts. Yes, to a person with normal logic, typists are considered typists, just as authors are considered writers. But your logic suggested otherwise.
And I never said you said that Cliff's music is in the same league as The Doors. I said by your logic, once again, that Cliff could not be Jim's son because his music isn't in the same league as The Doors. These are your words:
Defiance, on 07 December 2011 - 12:44 AM, said:
These aren't opinions. Music is music. When failure happens, then failure happens. Cliff failed in his attempt to make Morrison-esque music. A person who was actually the offspring of Morrison would make this 'Morrison-esque' type of music with relative ease and it would be obvious on first listen, not to mention it would be critically aclaimed. It may be a stretch to say, but he or she would be singing with The Doors today if such a person existed. The fact that The Doors have not invited Cliff to sing with them says a whole heck of a lot.
That's why I said that Jakob or Julian must not be the sons of Bob and John, respectively, because you would know upon first listen that they must not be their offspring because their music is not critically acclaimed like their father's, and so on and so forth, and they must be their offspring because their voices sound alike. That Asian guy that's singing for Journey now must potentially be Steve Perry's son because he sounds a lot like him, right? Because, you know, you have to sound just like you're parents in order to be one's offspring--which makes me wonder, Jim's father, The Admiral, must have been one hell of a singer and passed his voice onto Jim. I would love to hear a bootleg copy of him singing "Five to One." And I'm not putting words into your mouth, you said Cliff is not Jim's son on numerous occasions. Here's one:
Defiance, on 07 December 2011 - 12:44 AM, said:
Fact: Jim Morrison had no children.
If you believe that, without presenting any evidence or knowing for a fact, you're just as gullible as them. But with you stating that Jim's music came from God, it's fairly obviously to assume that all of your statements come from belief, and not any factual evidence.
And why would we need to seek Jesus to know Jim when Jim didn't need to seek Jesus to find himself? I think you're confusing Morrison with Mel Gibson.
And I think I'm done entertaining myself on this topic, starting to get bored debating cretin-like observations...