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[Sugar Mountain1]

Been some time since i have been on the board...I see Miz has updated Ballroom Days - where do I find it?

[mizscarlett43]

Sugar Mountain1, on 16 July 2011 - 01:32 PM, said:

Been some time since i have been on the board...I see Miz has updated Ballroom Days - where do I find it?

Well, not really updated, since Jim and I haven't hung out much since 1971 . "Expanded" is the word I've used, and it may get expanded a little more since the memories keep surfacing, but what you see now is the rather rushed version Kerry put together before he left for Paris at the end of June.

I haven't heard a peep out of him since he got back, but BD desperately needs copy editing --I find more boo-boos every time I read through it--and as I said, I may add a couple more stories, assuming I get around to writing them up first  (god, how I hate writing!)


Welcome back, btw. We've missed you!

Edited by mizscarlett43, 16 July 2011 - 08:02 PM.

[Shebang]

Sugar Mountain1, on 16 July 2011 - 01:32 PM, said:

Been some time since i have been on the board...I see Miz has updated Ballroom Days - where do I find it?

You can find it at The Doors Collectors Magazine


Here is a direct link to the article:

http://www.doors.com...llroomdays.html


Enjoy!!  

[GG Morrison]

mizscarlett43, on 16 July 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

Well, not really updated, since Jim and I haven't hung out much since 1971 . "Expanded" is the word I've used, and it may get expanded a little more since the memories keep surfacing, but what you see now is the rather rushed version Kerry put together before he left for Paris at the end of June.

I haven't heard a peep out of him since he got back, but BD desperately needs copy editing --I find more boo-boos every time I read through it--and as I said, I may add a couple more stories, assuming I get around to writing them up first  (god, how I hate writing!)


Welcome back, btw. We've missed you!

There's MORE???      


I saved it to favorites.

[mizscarlett43]

GG Morrison, on 17 July 2011 - 02:19 AM, said:

There's MORE???      


I saved it to favorites..

So? you tryin to make trouble or what?  

I wrote another whole paragraph just a couple of hours ago, and I've made a couple of notes about some other things I've remembered since then.

So if you've saved it to favorites, what's to stop you from overriding that by saving the updated version on top of it? Once I get it done, I mean...?

Besides, remember Kerry's version is by no means final--it desperately needs copy editing but he's still swamped with other stuff (I just talked to him) and he wants me to go ahead and make the changes and send them off to him and he'll put it in HTML, and at some point when we've both got some time we'll go through it together, line by line, and he'll correct the f*ckups he's made as he converts what I've written to HTML.

That's the great thing about publishing online, IMO. It's so easy to make corrections or add material etc., and all you have to do is set the changes/updates off some way--different color font or whatever-- and note that it's been changed or updated on such and such a date.

Ain't modern science wunnerful?  

[mizscarlett43]

mizscarlett43, on 19 July 2011 - 01:54 AM, said:

So? you tryin to make trouble or what?  

I wrote another whole paragraph just a couple of hours ago, and I've made a couple of notes about some other things I've remembered since then.

Here's the new paragraph (bolded) with the preceding paragraph included so you'll know where it fits in:

When I talk to Bruce the next day he assures me Jim won't show and insists I'm foolish not to make other plans. When Jim turns up hale and hearty and right on schedule--actually he's a little early--Bruce takes the news with such bad grace I finally lose my patience and point out that Jim's conduct with Patricia is not necessarily an accurate predictor of his behavior with anyone else.

We see The Music Lovers that night, Ken Russell's typically outrageous but frequently moving take on Peter Tchaikovsky's life and times. It hits close to home more than once in its portrayal of a musical genius at odds with the stultifying society of the time; Jim says later that it was the first film to engage his emotions in quite awhile. (Over dinner one night I refer to him in the third person as "that mad genius who sings with The Doors." He grins, says he's glad I think he's a genius but he was never mad, just pissed off.)

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[GG Morrison]

Lol!



One thing I can't understand is why the night that PK was so freaky, why Jim stayed there at the apt.  He was so unnerved by her outbursts that he hid all the cutlery and stuff.  I would have left, especially since she was going to be your guest for however many nights.  And SHE should have gone to a hotel instead of treating her host like she did.  

[GG Morrison]

mizscarlett43, on 19 July 2011 - 01:54 AM, said:

So? you tryin to make trouble or what?  

    

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I wrote another whole paragraph just a couple of hours ago, and I've made a couple of notes about some other things I've remembered since then.

So if you've saved it to favorites, what's to stop you from overriding that by saving the updated version on top of it? Once I get it done, I mean...?

I save all kinds of stuff! Mostly where I've found retro design stuff, but ALWAYS plenty of room for Doors stuff!  

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Besides, remember Kerry's version is by no means final--it desperately needs copy editing but he's still swamped with other stuff (I just talked to him) and he wants me to go ahead and make the changes and send them off to him and he'll put it in HTML, and at some point when we've both got some time we'll go through it together, line by line, and he'll correct the f*ckups he's made as he converts what I've written to HTML.

That's the great thing about publishing online, IMO. It's so easy to make corrections or add material etc., and all you have to do is set the changes/updates off some way--different color font or whatever-- and note that it's been changed or updated on such and such a date.

Ain't modern science wunnerful?  

Yep, I'll just save that version, too!  

[mizscarlett43]

GG Morrison, on 19 July 2011 - 03:28 AM, said:

Lol!

One thing I can't understand is why the night that PK was so freaky, why Jim stayed there at the apt.  He was so unnerved by her outbursts that he hid all the cutlery and stuff.  I would have left, especially since she was going to be your guest for however many nights.  And SHE should have gone to a hotel instead of treating her host like she did.  

He tried to get away early on, remember? to go to the studio?  but we wouldn't let him--of course it was still all in good fun then, at least on the surface. And don't forget we were all extremely drunk by then as well...

Later on he stayed because of me, though I didn't realize that until I got back from taking PK to the airport and he was still there.

Incidentally, I wouldn't use the word "unnerved." He wasn't the least bit unnerved. He just wasn't taking any chances.

And there's no way she could have gone to a hotel, btw. She didn't have any money. None of us had any money then, despite being music industry professionals. Only the executives--and the star performers--had any money.

Edited by mizscarlett43, 19 July 2011 - 11:33 AM.

[GG Morrison]

mizscarlett43, on 19 July 2011 - 11:28 AM, said:

He tried to get away early on, remember? to go to the studio?  but we wouldn't let him--of course it was still all in good fun then, at least on the surface. And don't forget we were all extremely drunk by then as well...

Later on he stayed because of me, though I didn't realize that until I got back from taking PK to the airport and he was still there.

Incidentally, I wouldn't use the word "unnerved." He wasn't the least bit unnerved. He just wasn't taking any chances.

And there's no way she could have gone to a hotel, btw. She didn't have any money. None of us had any money then, despite being music industry professionals. Only the executives--and the star performers--had any money.

I'll bet JIM would have given her money to go away--you should have suggested that to him!  
(I would have thought she had an expense account for traveling to LA for interviews and such.)  

I still don't think I would have stayed there with PK and knives around--he must have REALLY liked you!  

[Shebang]

GG Morrison, on 22 July 2011 - 04:25 PM, said:

I'll bet JIM would have given her money to go away--you should have suggested that to him!  
(I would have thought she had an expense account for traveling to LA for interviews and such.)  

I still don't think I would have stayed there with PK and knives around--he must have REALLY liked you!  

I agree!  This was back when the Motel 6 still cost 6 dollars (plus 25 cents for the "magic fingers"), she probably could have coughed that much up.  

[mizscarlett43]

Shebang, on 24 July 2011 - 03:12 AM, said:

I agree!  This was back when the Motel 6 still cost 6 dollars (plus 25 cents for the "magic fingers"), she probably could have coughed that much up.  

Forgot about this thread or I would've responded sooner.

The NOTH (Night of the Hematomas* as Kerry the wag refers to it) was PK's last night in L.A. and there was no way I was going to kick her out at that point** especially given the fact that she had no money for Motel 6 or anywhere else--and remember that in 1971 it was essentially unheard of for single women to have credit cards either.

It was Jim who had other options--he could simply have gone home,  or to the Doors' office, or the Alta Cienega, or the Hyatt House, and in fact he did try to make a getaway early on, to go to the studio.

*I've never read Strange Days so I thought Kerry was just being silly. It was Salli who later clued me in that PK claimed to have beaten me up and thrown me down the stairs...  

** ...or earlier for that matter. Don't I mention in BD that my first impulse was to throw her out (when I found her notebook/journal and discovered her true purpose in coming back to Los Angeles) but I decided it would be better to keep her close by, where I could keep an eye on her?

[mizscarlett43]

GG Morrison, on 22 July 2011 - 04:25 PM, said:

I'll bet JIM would have given her money to go away--you should have suggested that to him!  
(I would have thought she had an expense account for traveling to LA for interviews and such.)  

I still don't think I would have stayed there with PK and knives around--he must have REALLY liked you!  

I doubt it. Jazz & Pop was a small, essentially local music mag that very few people outside of NYC had even heard of, let alone read--except for the musicians themselves, I mean.

Also, remember that she was in Los Angeles because she'd originally been flown to SF--along with several others in the NY rock press-- by CCR for the party they threw for the debut of their latest LP (Pendulum) on December 15th, 1970.

[queenhwy]

Hey Miz,

Have you heard at all through the grapevine or from direct sources if PK had any response/comments on your updated article?  I'd be curious to know what she thinks.

[mizscarlett43]

queenhwy, on 03 September 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Hey Miz,

Have you heard at all through the grapevine or from direct sources if PK had any response/comments on your updated article?  I'd be curious to know what she thinks.

I haven't heard anything, but then I haven't talked with the one friend she and I still had in common in nearly ten years, so that's not surprising.

I'm assuming PK's got a Facebook page these days (I don't) so maybe she's said something there.

[Shebang]

queenhwy, on 03 September 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Hey Miz,

Have you heard at all through the grapevine or from direct sources if PK had any response/comments on your updated article?  I'd be curious to know what she thinks.

Good question!  Do you think she burned a cheesy looking black voodoo candle in the shame of a woman, and stuck full of pins?

http://www.voodoodep...ollkits_002.htm

[mizscarlett43]

mizscarlett43, on 02 September 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

I doubt it. Jazz & Pop was a small, essentially local music mag that very few people outside of NYC had even heard of, let alone read--except for the musicians themselves, I mean.

Also, remember that she was in Los Angeles because she'd originally been flown to SF--along with several others in the NY rock press-- by CCR for the party they threw for the debut of their latest LP (Pendulum) on December 15th, 1970.

Holy Smoke, I just realized I've conflated her flight to San Francisco in December 1970--paid for by Creedence --with her flight out to Los Angeles at the end of January 1971.

Not sure if her flight from SF down to LA after the CCR bash was commercial or if she hitched a ride on somebody's private plane, but it couldn't have cost her too much even if she did have to fly commercially.

OTOH, she'd resigned from Jazz & Pop as of the end of January 1971, and took three weeks off to come visit her good good friend in Los Angeles (that would be me, of course) before starting her new job at RCA, and it was all at her own expense.

[mizscarlett43]

Shebang, on 03 September 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

Good question!  Do you think she burned a cheesy looking black voodoo candle in the shame of a woman, and stuck full of pins?

http://www.voodoodep...ollkits_002.htm

The shame of a woman? Interesting typo, albeit appropriate in this case for sure!  


PS: the black candle on the right (stage left) looks kinda famliiar... .

Edited by mizscarlett43, 03 September 2011 - 10:40 PM.

[Shebang]

mizscarlett43, on 03 September 2011 - 10:32 PM, said:

The shame of a woman? Interesting typo, albeit appropriate in this case for sure!  

Yipes!  Freudian slip!  I meant to say shape of a woman!

[GG Morrison]

Shebang, on 03 September 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

Yipes!  Freudian slip!  I meant to say shape of a woman!