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*~adrienne~*, on 18 April 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

yeah they should leave Jim be...but I still wonder why he isn't with pam...i mean it's sad to think they aren't at the very least buried near each other...even though Jim chose to be buried at Pere Lachaise...I mean he must've known Pam wouldn't have been buried next to him as she wasn't a poet...what do you think?

Still not convinced he's really even in that Grave!

[*~adrienne~*]

I used to think they should've buried him in Forest Hills next to Pamela because that is where he'd have been happiest but then I read that before he died he walked through Pere Lachaise and said he wanted to be buried there...so that was enough for me. It's annoying that he's all the way in France as I'd love to see the grave someday but just don't have the money but that's where he said he wanted to be buried so I'm inclined to go with what he said he wanted.

Edited by *~adrienne~*, 08 June 2012 - 06:21 PM.

[Defiance]

*~adrienne~*, on 08 June 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I used to think they should've buried him in Forest Hills next to Pamela because that is where he'd have been happiest but then I read that before he died he walked through Pere Lachaise and said he wanted to be buried there...so that was enough for me. It's annoying that he's all the way in France as I'd love to see the grave someday but just don't have the money but that's where he said he wanted to be buried so I'm inclined to go with what he said he wanted.

I don't go on planes because you aren't supposed to bring bud out of CA, but to go all that way to see a grave?

Grave is death. I like to think that people go to Paris to see Jim, not a negative space in the ground.

Yes, Jim casually said that he would like to be buried on a hill, but that is about all he said regarding Pere Lachaise. It wasn't like Jim was walking through it and loved it. He was far away from it and saw a large green hill in the distance and asked what that place was. Once he found out, he naturally said what he did.

However, he still belongs in the Pacific with Janis.

Jim never stated that he wanted to be buried, just that if he was going to be buried, then that looked like a nice place.

Jim wasn't speaking matter of factly like he was planning on dying there.

The fact that he was outside during the day and not drunk indoors at some bar somewhere shows that he was not even thinking of death and depression at that moment, so that leads me to think that he could not have put much thought into it.

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Defiance, on 08 June 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

I don't go on planes because you aren't supposed to bring bud out of CA, but to go all that way to see a grave?

Grave is death. I like to think that people go to Paris to see Jim, not a negative space in the ground.

Yes, Jim casually said that he would like to be buried on a hill, but that is about all he said regarding Pere Lachaise. It wasn't like Jim was walking through it and loved it. He was far away from it and saw a large green hill in the distance and asked what that place was. Once he found out, he naturally said what he did.

However, he still belongs in the Pacific with Janis.

Jim never stated that he wanted to be buried, just that if he was going to be buried, then that looked like a nice place.

Jim wasn't speaking matter of factly like he was planning on dying there.

The fact that he was outside during the day and not drunk indoors at some bar somewhere shows that he was not even thinking of death and depression at that moment, so that leads me to think that he could not have put much thought into it.

Cool man, you never mentioned you were with Jim when he was walking Pere Lachaise and that he discussed his funeral plans with you. What else did he have to say about it? You seem to claim to know what he really wanted to do so we'd all love to hear what other insight he gave to you that day. Were you guys drinking before you went outside? I know it's only possible to drink inside at a bar, but just was wondering if maybe Jim had a flask or bottle of wine with him and was sipping off it while you guys were walking around. Or did you just just go to a bar afterwards with him? I know he didn't predict his own death in Paris, but I think we'd all like to know why he thought Pere Lachaise was the ideal place should he die. It seems like he had no plans on returning to the states, but did he mention anything about a U.S. burial? Did he say he wanted to belong in the Pacific with Janis? This is very exciting to all of us Doors fans that you can provide us with intimate details of what Jim Morrison actually said and what he told you regarding this subject since you were there and discussed this with him and his words are the only thing relevant to what he actually thought...

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crazyhorse80, on 10 June 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

Cool man, you never mentioned you were with Jim when he was walking Pere Lachaise and that he discussed his funeral plans with you. What else did he have to say about it? You seem to claim to know what he really wanted to do so we'd all love to hear what other insight he gave to you that day. Were you guys drinking before you went outside? I know it's only possible to drink inside at a bar, but just was wondering if maybe Jim had a flask or bottle of wine with him and was sipping off it while you guys were walking around. Or did you just just go to a bar afterwards with him? I know he didn't predict his own death in Paris, but I think we'd all like to know why he thought Pere Lachaise was the ideal place should he die. It seems like he had no plans on returning to the states, but did he mention anything about a U.S. burial? Did he say he wanted to belong in the Pacific with Janis? This is very exciting to all of us Doors fans that you can provide us with intimate details of what Jim Morrison actually said and what he told you regarding this subject since you were there and discussed this with him and his words are the only thing relevant to what he actually thought...

Who did Jim tell he wanted to be buried at Pere Lachaise?  Who was with him as he spoke those words?  Was it just Pam or was it Alan?

[Defiance]

crazyhorse80, on 10 June 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

Cool man, you never mentioned you were with Jim when he was walking Pere Lachaise and that he discussed his funeral plans with you. What else did he have to say about it? You seem to claim to know what he really wanted to do so we'd all love to hear what other insight he gave to you that day. Were you guys drinking before you went outside? I know it's only possible to drink inside at a bar, but just was wondering if maybe Jim had a flask or bottle of wine with him and was sipping off it while you guys were walking around. Or did you just just go to a bar afterwards with him? I know he didn't predict his own death in Paris, but I think we'd all like to know why he thought Pere Lachaise was the ideal place should he die. It seems like he had no plans on returning to the states, but did he mention anything about a U.S. burial? Did he say he wanted to belong in the Pacific with Janis? This is very exciting to all of us Doors fans that you can provide us with intimate details of what Jim Morrison actually said and what he told you regarding this subject since you were there and discussed this with him and his words are the only thing relevant to what he actually thought...

Obviously what I said was taken from the account Jim's acquaintances gave of his final days. Try reading sometime.

Only an idiot would think I am claiming to have been friends with Jim.

I know Jim, but then again, so should you. Anyone can know Jim by his Blues.

Jim didn't say that he 'wanted to belong' in the Pacific since such a thing goes without saying. Belonging is not based on a want. Do you know what God did to Adam when Adam had a want?

I take it that you aren't from California? Take a trip to So Cal at least once dude, then perhaps you would not be so ill informed about the West Side.

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I think we'd all like to know why he thought Pere Lachaise was the ideal place should he die

There is no such thing as an 'ideal place' to place a decaying body. Jim was supposed to be cremated, with the ashes being spread in his home... the ocean.

Jim is dead, why would he care about 'ideal'?

Also, there was no 'should he die' talk. Jim merely casually spoke of Pere Lachaise.

The only theoretically ideal spot to place a body (one that had not started decaying as Jim's had) is on the rocks high in the Himalayan mountains for a sky burial in which birds of prey eat the body. Monks take the body of a dead monk and grind his bones and flesh into a food source for the birds so that the body will eventually be spread over the valley.

Again, try reading something about the world so that you can share knowledge instead of sarcastic remarks.

P.S. I don't know what you mean comparing drinking inside vs outside. It sounds like you are underage yourself and curious about the adult world of alcohol.

Edit: A US burial? No, that was not in God's plans.

Edited by Defiance, 10 June 2012 - 06:58 PM.

[*~adrienne~*]

Defiance, on 10 June 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Obviously what I said was taken from the account Jim's acquaintances gave of his final days. Try reading sometime.

Only an idiot would think I am claiming to have been friends with Jim.

I know Jim, but then again, so should you. Anyone can know Jim by his Blues.

Jim didn't say that he 'wanted to belong' in the Pacific since such a thing goes without saying. Belonging is not based on a want. Do you know what God did to Adam when Adam had a want?

I take it that you aren't from California? Take a trip to So Cal at least once dude, then perhaps you would not be so ill informed about the West Side.



There is no such thing as an 'ideal place' to place a decaying body. Jim was supposed to be cremated, with the ashes being spread in his home... the ocean.

Jim is dead, why would he care about 'ideal'?

Also, there was no 'should he die' talk. Jim merely casually spoke of Pere Lachaise.

The only theoretically ideal spot to place a body (one that had not started decaying as Jim's had) is on the rocks high in the Himalayan mountains for a sky burial in which birds of prey eat the body. Monks take the body of a dead monk and grind his bones and flesh into a food source for the birds so that the body will eventually be spread over the valley.

Again, try reading something about the world so that you can share knowledge instead of sarcastic remarks.

P.S. I don't know what you mean comparing drinking inside vs outside. It sounds like you are underage yourself and curious about the adult world of alcohol.

Edit: A US burial? No, that was not in God's plans.

This conversation just gets weirder and weirder.

[Snowdrop]

I think "spreading his ashes across the ocean", would have been for the best.
Instead of the tourist attraction he became and all issues that came with it.
The ocean would have truly given him a final rest, in a more positive sense.
He deserved at least peace in death but sadly, Alan influenced Pam not only
where he's to rest but also to not think of getting in touch with Andy (Jim's
brother). At one point Pam during their conversation expresses worry of "earth
falling on top of Jim". Had it not been for Alan, she would have chosen to go
with her heart and feeling. He had way too much influence over this matter of
where Jim's to rest and how.

[Defiance]

*~adrienne~*, on 10 June 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

This conversation just gets weirder and weirder.

You do not then understand.

What is weirder than putting a dead Rock star in a casket that likely has secret coded message engraved on it? I am of course speaking of Brian Jones being buried at a depth of 12 ft. in a bronze casket provided by one Bob Dylan.

Now imagine if a programmer had been given access to Jim's casket before it was buried... there could be any kind of coded message contained in or on it. Jim needs to be dug up.

Even if he were to be reburied, someone would undoubtedly spoil a new casket with rituals before Jim could be safely reburied in California.

Not even one ritual is permitted..... Jesus shows us that ritual practices lead to Hurricane Katrina and the Haiti quake, due to Voodoo in those two instances. There is too much of a chance of Voodoo getting near Jim if he is merely reburied. He needs to be free of those people who try and extinguish his spirit.

[crazyhorse80]

Defiance, on 10 June 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Obviously what I said was taken from the account Jim's acquaintances gave of his final days. Try reading sometime.

Only an idiot would think I am claiming to have been friends with Jim.

I know Jim, but then again, so should you. Anyone can know Jim by his Blues.

Jim didn't say that he 'wanted to belong' in the Pacific since such a thing goes without saying. Belonging is not based on a want. Do you know what God did to Adam when Adam had a want?

I take it that you aren't from California? Take a trip to So Cal at least once dude, then perhaps you would not be so ill informed about the West Side.



There is no such thing as an 'ideal place' to place a decaying body. Jim was supposed to be cremated, with the ashes being spread in his home... the ocean.

Jim is dead, why would he care about 'ideal'?

Also, there was no 'should he die' talk. Jim merely casually spoke of Pere Lachaise.

The only theoretically ideal spot to place a body (one that had not started decaying as Jim's had) is on the rocks high in the Himalayan mountains for a sky burial in which birds of prey eat the body. Monks take the body of a dead monk and grind his bones and flesh into a food source for the birds so that the body will eventually be spread over the valley.

Again, try reading something about the world so that you can share knowledge instead of sarcastic remarks.

P.S. I don't know what you mean comparing drinking inside vs outside. It sounds like you are underage yourself and curious about the adult world of alcohol.

Edit: A US burial? No, that was not in God's plans.

I pose questions, I do not put words and thoughts into another human being as you seem to take liberty for some odd reason with Jim Morrison. Notice the question marks and actual questions that I pose for someone that might have actually known Jim and heard what he had to say regarding what he intended to do, which from what you have previously stated, you do did not know or have have ever talked to Jim, so therefore, you have no relevance in this conversation, so it's hard to understand what you are trying to get at at, aside from lunacy. How could you possibly think you have the right to speak for another human being? If you can explain that, in regards to how much you claim to know what Jim thought, it would be a world of wisdom, but all you do is constantly come across as a jack-ass since you just put words in other people's mouth which is thoroughly entertaining to me. I'd assume aside from your profession as professional Doors Message Board Forum troll, you're a ventriloquist in your spare time. As fictional and entertaining as Oliver Stone's movie was on Jim and The Doors, nothing would make me happier then being able to see a movie on Jim and The Doors if you had the chance to make one...

Edited by crazyhorse80, 12 June 2012 - 01:03 AM.

[Defiance]

crazyhorse80, on 12 June 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

I pose questions, I do not put words and thoughts into another human being as you seem to take liberty for some odd reason with Jim Morrison. Notice the question marks and actual questions that I pose for someone that might have actually known Jim and heard what he had to say regarding what he intended to do, which from what you have previously stated, you do did not know or have have ever talked to Jim, so therefore, you have no relevance in this conversation, so it's hard to understand what you are trying to get at at, aside from lunacy. How could you possibly think you have the right to speak for another human being? If you can explain that, in regards to how much you claim to know what Jim thought, it would be a world of wisdom, but all you do is constantly come across as a jack-ass since you just put words in other people's mouth which is thoroughly entertaining to me. I'd assume aside from your profession as professional Doors Message Board Forum troll, you're a ventriloquist in your spare time. As fictional and entertaining as Oliver Stone's movie was on Jim and The Doors, nothing would make me happier then being able to see a movie on Jim and The Doors if you had the chance to make one...

What are your questions? As it is, you are being very difficult, and your refusal to separate ideas through the insertion of line spacing and/or paragraphs makes it hard to even follow what you say.

Use numbers if you have to, like this:

1. I don't put thougts or words into Morrison. Jim is dead. What you propose (i.e. putting words into a dead person) is not possible, though what you describe sounds an awful lot like what I talked about regarding people putting unwanted symbols on Jim's casket.

What I did do is state that I know what Jim felt. That feeling that I have for Morrison does not mean I am putting anything back into Morrison. I am not claiming any connection with Jim other than that connection which any one of us can get simply by putting on The Doors. Know Jim through his music.

I don't speak for Jim.... I never have spoken for him. What you just said above is Slander since you are saying that I claim to speak for Jim.

You have it backwards, Jim spoke for God.... as did Tupac and Marley.

2. Stop talking about asking questions and just ask them already.

3. I don't claim to know what Jim thought. I have explained this before..... what Jim thought and what he felt are two different things. I only know how Jim felt. Add another instance of Slander by you against me though for saying that I claim to know what Jim thought.

Only a so-called "psychic" would claim to know thoughts of the dead. What you did is tantamount to calling me a fake psychic and it is against board rules.

4. What does Jim's music mean to you? What does Jim's death mean to you? What did death mean to Jim? What did Jim's music mean to Jim?

Answer 2 out of the 4 and you get a 10-9 score for the round (10-9 is MMA scoring, it means you won). If you answer at genius level, you get a 10-8 round. In MMA, a 10-8 round means you did damage. It is rare, but it happens. Dolloway got a 10-8 round over Miller, and Dos Santos got one over Carwin. That is one judge though, mind you. In each instance, the other two judges merely gave the standard 10-9 round to the winner.

5. The movie that I would make about The Doors has already happened. What actually happened in the 60s is what I would show to God as a film of our times.

Life is the film for God.

If you think that someone should try and write a screen play or script about Jim, then you must think it is ok to minimize him.

God sees and hears Jim's Blues... and God can hear you as well, just communicate with him through Blues. It is the only way.

Edited by Defiance, 12 June 2012 - 06:25 PM.

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crazyhorse80, on 12 June 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

I pose questions, I do not put words and thoughts into another human being as you seem to take liberty for some odd reason with Jim Morrison. Notice the question marks and actual questions that I pose for someone that might have actually known Jim and heard what he had to say regarding what he intended to do, which from what you have previously stated, you do did not know or have have ever talked to Jim, so therefore, you have no relevance in this conversation, so it's hard to understand what you are trying to get at at, aside from lunacy. How could you possibly think you have the right to speak for another human being? If you can explain that, in regards to how much you claim to know what Jim thought, it would be a world of wisdom, but all you do is constantly come across as a jack-ass since you just put words in other people's mouth which is thoroughly entertaining to me. I'd assume aside from your profession as professional Doors Message Board Forum troll, you're a ventriloquist in your spare time. As fictional and entertaining as Oliver Stone's movie was on Jim and The Doors, nothing would make me happier then being able to see a movie on Jim and The Doors if you had the chance to make one...

LOL

Is the pay any good for that position?  Or a vendetta?