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[dilier]

I just came back for Paris, and heard they are talking about the 30 years lease again...I remembered it just prolonged for several years, but who can tell me how long time it prolonged or someone but that place forever for Jim?

Thanks...

[super8monsters]

dilier, on 04 January 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

I just came back for Paris, and heard they are talking about the 30 years lease again...I remembered it just prolonged for several years, but who can tell me how long time it prolonged or someone but that place forever for Jim?

Thanks...

It totally wigs me out Jim is still buried in Paris. He should be removed from that ugly graveyard. And who ever heard of these people he's buried with anyway? Oscar, and Edith? Chopin?

Now that Jim has been pardoned, it's only fitting his mortal remains be exhumed and returned to the family, and given a proper American burial. Jim's bones, like his artifacts, music and poetry are part of the Morrison Estate. And he should be honored as the ex-Patriot's Return to His Rightful Home of America! The Prodigal Son of Rock! His bones could go into a museum and mausoleum.  

A Morriseum, or Museo-leum.

Morrisoleum....

Morris-museo-leum.

[Shebang]

dilier, on 04 January 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

I just came back for Paris, and heard they are talking about the 30 years lease again...I remembered it just prolonged for several years, but who can tell me how long time it prolonged or someone but that place forever for Jim?

Thanks...

Considering the fact that Pere Lachaise is the 4th most popular tourist destination in Paris, and that the majority of people who visit there want to see Jim Morrison's grave, it is highly unlikely that the French would ever allow the body to be moved elsewhere.

[Roughie]

This old chestnut again huh?

He's staying put and so he should!

[Moe Joe]

super8monsters, on 04 January 2011 - 02:52 AM, said:

It totally wigs me out Jim is still buried in Paris. He should be removed from that ugly graveyard. And who ever heard of these people he's buried with anyway? Oscar, and Edith? Chopin?

Now that Jim has been pardoned, it's only fitting his mortal remains be exhumed and returned to the family, and given a proper American burial. Jim's bones, like his artifacts, music and poetry are part of the Morrison Estate. And he should be honored as the ex-Patriot's Return to His Rightful Home of America! The Prodigal Son of Rock! His bones could go into a museum and mausoleum.  

A Morriseum, or Museo-leum.

Morrisoleum....

Morris-museo-leum.

Umm, I think Jim cared about those people. As for his bones being put on show, that is sick! I think Jim is right where he would want to be buried. He is with people he was interested in. I could not see a better place for our rebel poet and think his remains should be left alone.

[dilier]

Roughie, on 04 January 2011 - 03:34 AM, said:

This old chestnut again huh?

He's staying put and so he should!

Oh yes, it's old chestnut, but I just wanna to confirm if he will be there forever...'cause it's much more easier for me to come to Paris than to US...I am sure most of the people come to PERE LACHAISE just for him!

[snowman2]

I don't think it would be right to move him.  When someone is at rest, they should stay at rest.

[Enya]

dilier, on 04 January 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

I just came back for Paris, and heard they are talking about the 30 years lease again...I remembered it just prolonged for several years, but who can tell me how long time it prolonged or someone but that place forever for Jim?

Thanks...

It's a perpetual lease, meaning he is staying there forever. First lease was 30 years (1971 - 2001), the second time around French goverment declared it something like an important place for the city and will pay for the permanent lease.

PS. This is what I have red somewhere, it is nothing official, so don't take my word for it.

[DESIREE777]

Moe Joe, on 04 January 2011 - 01:08 PM, said:

Umm, I think Jim cared about those people. As for his bones being put on show, that is sick! I think Jim is right where he would want to be buried. He is with people he was interested in. I could not see a better place for our rebel poet and think his remains should be left alone.

Yep...Jim selected Pere Lachaise as his choice for his final resting place before he died.  I say leave him be.  

[letsstealtheeye]

Enya, on 04 January 2011 - 07:32 PM, said:

It's a perpetual lease, meaning he is staying there forever. First lease was 30 years (1971 - 2001), the second time around French goverment declared it something like an important place for the city and will pay for the permanent lease.

PS. This is what I have red somewhere, it is nothing official, so don't take my word for it.

I think this is more or less accurate.  I think once they realized how many tourists are coming to visit Jim, the whole lease thing cooled down.  I think Jim will be a Parisian for a long time in the afterlife.

If they try to move Jim, he might start popping up in those graveyard photos again, in protest.. he he

[Philosopher King]

This really is an old chestnut, and I have to agree with all the points made for leaving Jim's remains where they are. The pardon was brilliant, and well overdue, but I would ask, why did Jim go to Paris in 1971? To escape the nightmare of the Florida trial was probably part of it, but also I think he was trying to remove himself from an atmosphere in his own life that was self-destructive and dangerous, in addition to a wider political atmosphere in America that was counter-productive to his aims as a poet and as a musician.

It wasn't as if he was there on a two week vacation. He was a resident of the city and I believe, based on what I've read, that he loved Paris deeply. This leads me to believing that Jim Morrison would have been if not happy, then contented with the fact of the burial of his earthly remains in Paris. But hey, mine is just one among many equally and more valuable opinions.

I think Jim's burial in Paris is a symbol of his global appeal. There have been many musicians who have changed America for the better. Some of them even managed to change America, the UK and Europe for the better. Jim was more special than that. His reach, with the power of his music, poetry, and image, has impacted on people from LA to New York, to London (and Manchester, UK! lol), to Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, Johannesburg, Sydney, Rio, etc. etc. all the way to mud huts in third world countries. There's something symbolic about his burial abroad.

Plus yeah, the Paris authorities really don't wanna lose the money! And it's a quick hop on the Eurostar train from Manchester to go see him...

PK

[Pedro Kazit]

Jim Morrison grave photo 7-7-1981, 4 days after the installation of the bust(without graffiti):  http://www.flickr.co...ler/5264516522/

[daverse]

Moe Joe, on 04 January 2011 - 01:08 PM, said:

Umm, I think Jim cared about those people. As for his bones being put on show, that is sick! I think Jim is right where he would want to be buried. He is with people he was interested in. I could not see a better place for our rebel poet and think his remains should be left alone.

lol..are you serious?

can you not tell that super8 is just being facetious?



edit: with that being sad..i smiled at super8's post

Edited by daverse, 27 February 2011 - 02:43 PM.

[Pedro Kazit]

Video with quality about Pere Lachaise Cemetery; Jim Morrison grave minute 1 to 1:08:  http://www.geobeats....chaise-cemetery

[super8monsters]

daverse, on 27 February 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:

lol..are you serious?

can you not tell that super8 is just being facetious?



edit: with that being sad..i smiled at super8's post

I was dead serious. Jim should be removed from a tourist graveyard I am never going to visit, and would like Jim's bones examined by forensic pathologists, photographed, and put in a mausoleum here in America so fans can visit instead of going to creepy France. And why spend the money to go? It was a tragic drug trip. At least with Poe they marked the former burial spots. But in Baltimore, Maryland they worship Poe. They named a football team after his poem, the Baltimore Ravens.

In France, Jim's grave is akin to pouring money down a rat hole. Jim deserves a Graceland of sorts in the States. All this poetic morbidness is cliche. Old hat. Jim's pardon should be cause celibre and get him home, and revered like Poe.

[daverse]

how 'bout..they attach puppet strings to jim's bones..and put on a puppet show..

put the morrison puppet in front of a mic stand...



have densmore, manzarek and krieger skeletons play along..



anybody ever see that greatful dead video? the one for "touch of grey" (look for it on youtube)

something like that  

[veg]

super8monsters, on 05 March 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

creepy France.

LOL

[circles]

Roughie, on 04 January 2011 - 03:34 AM, said:

This old chestnut again huh?

He's staying put and so he should!

yep agree. personally i dont see any point in moving him. either way its up to his family and not a public issue. hate the sense of entitlement some people think they have...

[lizard_3j]

Shebang, on 04 January 2011 - 03:26 AM, said:

Considering the fact that Pere Lachaise is the 4th most popular tourist destination in Paris, and that the majority of people who visit there want to see Jim Morrison's grave, it is highly unlikely that the French would ever allow the body to be moved elsewhere.

yes shebang, i´ve heard this that you said some years ago..the french government has interest that JIM continues there because of the tourists that go to france to visit JIM...you´re correct..

Edited by lizard_3j, 21 March 2011 - 03:10 PM.

[*~adrienne~*]

yeah they should leave Jim be...but I still wonder why he isn't with pam...i mean it's sad to think they aren't at the very least buried near each other...even though Jim chose to be buried at Pere Lachaise...I mean he must've known Pam wouldn't have been buried next to him as she wasn't a poet...what do you think?