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[dj_vera]

Pats Radio, on 24 November 2010 - 11:44 AM, said:

My God, some people are NEVER happy.



Pats Radio

I agree.

[daniel@falaschi.net]

dj_vera, on 24 November 2010 - 02:48 PM, said:

I agree.

Some others seem to be perfectly happy with being fed with mediocrity.

[Pats Radio]

daniel@falaschi.net, on 24 November 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Some others seem to be perfectly happy with being fed with mediocrity.

What if they fed you sh!t. Would you be happy then? If they don't have a better source what would you suggest they do? HELLO ANYBODY HOME????


Pats Radio

[daniel@falaschi.net]

Pats Radio, on 24 November 2010 - 06:35 PM, said:

What if they fed you sh!t. Would you be happy then? If they don't have a better source what would you suggest they do? HELLO ANYBODY HOME????


Pats Radio

what would i suggest?? release a bootleg like the matrix!!! HELLO ANYBODY HOME?
i´M NOT COMPLAINING MOSTLY ABOUT SOUND QUALITY HERE. I´M TALKING ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING ELSE TAHN A 1970 SHOW THAT WHOSE SET LIST HAS BEEN RELEASED OVER AND OVER IN THE LAST 10 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!

[universalmind69]

  classic..

[dhouston]

I personally think the Vancouver '70 Audience got their money's worth this night. No, it was not The Doors most drunken or wild night. However, it was a solid night of music which should have delighted the fans in attendance.

As for the recording, I have every one of the Bright Midnight Releases since inception. I have enjoyed hearing all of them. The Vancouver is special as it features Albert King and also has 'Love Me Two Times' live which was rarely done in the sets during this time period. I also dig hearing Jim pay homage to the Blues and seemingly having a real good time singing as the night progresses. I don't own any of the Bootlegs, except Boot Your Butt, which was an official release. So, hearing these concerts in full is a treat. Sound quality is excellent for a 1970 recording.

Thanks to Jeff, Bruce, The Doors and all involved. Keep the releases coming. I'll keep buying them.

[brianoc02115]

you nags it is what it is! not sound board and less canny sounding than the boot! now do i want to see another 70's show? yes if its the Bakersfield show! but would i like a 68 show cleaned up like this? f__ ya! but i'm happy with this even if i have had it for 20 years! thanks second coming records in Boston! the store is gone but show is back and better than ever. thanks doors guys!

[crazyhorse80]

dhouston, on 15 November 2010 - 02:36 AM, said:

There is no doubt without Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Albert, Freddie, BB, Willie Dixon and all the other greats ( way too many to mention ) that Blues as we know it would not have the foundation of a true genre of music it is today. However, look at what Jimmy Page, The Stones, The Doors, SRV, Hendrix and Eric Clapton did to take it to another level during their era. To those musicians Blues was studied, honored and paid tribute to. They lived it and applied it to their style. I don't see it as black and white, but blues is simply the blues and it crosses cultures and can be made to fit a bands style.

The Doors certainly loved playing the blues and did it well, maybe their repetroir was not extensive. But look at Ray's piano and Jim's drive toward bluesy vocal work all along. Very influenced by the early greats.

I just hope the next generations will keep that Blues flame burning. As a white guitarist myself, I know that I try to do my part. I honor the past, present and future of Blues - black or white - it's all the same. Blues.

Not to bring up earlier debates, but The Doors were not a blues band--or a rock band, or a psychedelic band, or an experimental band, etc.--they brought all those elements together, and more, and created something that hasn't been comparable before or since... they were truly a one-of-a-kind band which I think is keeping them relevant after all these years. Could they play the blues? Hell yeah... To the person who said they sound like a redneck bar band, especially on "Who Do You Love," that's not hillbilly, they played the hell out of that song with more soul and rhythm, imo, than Bo Diddley.... If you're looking for a redneck bar band vesion of that song, listen to the George Thorogood version, or any other of his songs for that matter. Or another good example of redneck blues, would be Canned Heat, which I think The Doors' "kindred" connection to had more to do with Morrison's friendship with the Heat's Alan Wilson than his actual affinity for their music--no soul in that band. The Doors had soul, and Morrison had the blues, and it sure came through when he sang blues as well as non-blues songs. And it shows in Vancouver...

This is in no way another BMR "Matrix" fiasco, as someone suggested. We were not misled with this one as for where the source came from (and at least they are rectifying their mistake and re-releasing The Matrix in its rightful form). The source of this recording was known long before it officially came out, and  most of us with an ear for recording processes knew we shouldn't expect the sound quality as say Boston or Detroit on this one with the way Treanor recorded it and while not perfect, it is more than listenable--I'd love to see some official '67 and '68 shows in this quality, or better, of course. And their performance at this concert was by far from flat, like some suggested, and the way it was recorded, plus the addition of Albert King on a few numbers, makes it unique among the BMR releases. Pittsburgh, imho, has been the only "flat" show amongst the bunch, although the setlist, and the "When the Music's Over/Break on Through/Soft Parade Vamp" surely makes up for it for me. But every single BMR release has it's own "lovable" quality, so far; Detroit with its tight, flawless performance (albeit the two songs Ray sang on and muffed, although Jim did save the day on "Close to You); the Aquarius shows with their "comeback" performance and Ray's switching back to the Vox while playing some rare in-concert songs; Philly with its soul and blues feel; and of course, my favorite, Boston with inebriated intensity--the BMR show I wish I was at the most. But Vancouver definitely holds its own amongst the rest...

"When the Music's Over" is possibly the best I've heard. And the Albert King cuts gives you a different take on the band, as there are not many recordings with The Doors jamming out with other musicians (eg. oh, what could have been had Morrison not been as "groovy" during the Scene Club-Hendrix Jam). But Vancouver is a welcome addition to any Doors' fans, and I hope to hear more soon--although something other than a '70 show!!!

Edited by crazyhorse80, 27 November 2010 - 01:48 AM.

[crazyhorse80]

daniel@falaschi.net, on 24 November 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Some others seem to be perfectly happy with being fed with mediocrity.

And c'mon, man! Haven't you learned by now that Pats Radio is the gatekeeper of this board and that nobody else's opinion, speculation or knowledge of all The Doors' official and non-official, existing and non-existing, live music matters, and that he and only he can say for sure if you have to like something or that if something was properly released or not! Jesus! Where have you been! Our opinions are worthless! To achieve greatness on this forum, we must flirt with Jeff and the other members of The Doors' management to show our heroic praise of them, and demand and gratify ourselves over artwork and packaging for every Doors release, haha....

[Pats Radio]

crazyhorse80, on 27 November 2010 - 01:30 AM, said:

And c'mon, man! Haven't you learned by now that Pats Radio is the gatekeeper of this board and that nobody else's opinion, speculation or knowledge of all The Doors' official and non-official, existing and non-existing, live music matters, and that he and only he can say for sure if you have to like something or that if something was properly released or not! Jesus! Where have you been! Our opinions are worthless! To achieve greatness on this forum, we must flirt with Jeff and the other members of The Doors' management to show our heroic praise of them, and demand and gratify ourselves over artwork and packaging for every Doors release, haha....

Yawn, Crazyhorse is part of the bitch at no matter what they put out, call management names and expect them to do whatever THEY want which includes buying shows and bitch when they don't, even though it's not THEIR money. Brilliant. It's just shows nothing but disrespect. Kids. Plain and simple. The Doors run THEIR business like a business. Period. You might not like it but YOU don't really matter anyway so you bitching like a kid doesn't do you or anybody any good. Honestly, what can you possibly bitch about now???? Vancouver wasn't a long enough show? Or better yet, same set list (like management can do anything about that???) Two words: Bring it.



Pats Radio

[Hamlet]

daniel@falaschi.net, on 24 November 2010 - 08:17 PM, said:

what would i suggest?? release a bootleg like the matrix!!! HELLO ANYBODY HOME?
i´M NOT COMPLAINING MOSTLY ABOUT SOUND QUALITY HERE. I´M TALKING ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING ELSE TAHN A 1970 SHOW THAT WHOSE SET LIST HAS BEEN RELEASED OVER AND OVER IN THE LAST 10 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!

well, then don´t buy it! You support your own idiotic argument by buying it, genius!

[Hamlet]

daniel@falaschi.net, on 24 November 2010 - 08:17 PM, said:

what would i suggest?? release a bootleg like the matrix!!! HELLO ANYBODY HOME?
i´M NOT COMPLAINING MOSTLY ABOUT SOUND QUALITY HERE. I´M TALKING ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING ELSE TAHN A 1970 SHOW THAT WHOSE SET LIST HAS BEEN RELEASED OVER AND OVER IN THE LAST 10 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!

well, then don´t buy it! You support your own idiotic argument by buying it, genius!

[crazyhorse80]

Pats Radio, on 27 November 2010 - 12:45 PM, said:

Yawn, Crazyhorse is part of the bitch at no matter what they put out, call management names and expect them to do whatever THEY want which includes buying shows and bitch when they don't, even though it's not THEIR money. Brilliant. It's just shows nothing but disrespect. Kids. Plain and simple. The Doors run THEIR business like a business. Period. You might not like it but YOU don't really matter anyway so you bitching like a kid doesn't do you or anybody any good. Honestly, what can you possibly bitch about now???? Vancouver wasn't a long enough show? Or better yet, same set list (like management can do anything about that???) Two words: Bring it.



Pats Radio

Did you actually read my post two above yours? I was more than happy with the Vancouver release and I'm more than happy they put it out and I think they did a great job with what they had to work with. Would I like to see a show besides a 1970 show released, hell yeah. And of course The Doors run their business like a business, but it's US who is keeping them in business, and that's what these threads are for, for listening to ALL of the fans that are keeping them in business. I don't agree with Daniel's opinion on the Vancouver release, but he has a right to HIS own opinion, without safety patrol like you jumping all over his case because he expressed views you don't agree with. All input is beneficial for future Doors releases so that they can utilize that input and improve their business and give the fans that are keeping them in business what THEY want. And you have no right criticizing the opinion of someone else, and in case you haven't noticed it, you're the one doing the most bitching around here, kiddo...

[Pedro Kazit]

Video Doors fan:  

[Shebang]

The Doors Live in Vancouver is getting good reviews

http://wizbangpop.co...vancouver-1970/

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Cd Review: The Doors LIVE IN VANCOUVER 1970

Although, many true fans of The Doors probably might own a bootleg or two of some of the performances from this June 6, 1970 show from Vancouver, this new Rhino release of this 40 year old show is still real worthy of owning. Oh, sure the sound still sounds a little bit like a bootleg, even with the best of Rhino engineering work. But, heck this was a great show that night. A real magic evening with blues legend Albert King doing four songs onstage with The Doors that night. And Morrison, while always the outrageous one, seemed on his best behavior that night. Less obscenities or lewd behavior than some shows. The Doors were “on” big time night. This recording is proof positive of that fact.

Unlike some bootlegs that don’t offer too much of the show, the Rhino package is a two disc package with plenty to listen to. It’s a great Christmas gift from The Doors. It’s the band’s yearly tradition to offer a great new cd package right around the holidays for the fans.

The performances were quite good here. This is a great Doors album by all means.

The Bottom Line: A perfectly good Doors album. Jim Morrison and the band were great that night. When The Doors are dead on, they’re dead on. +++(Good. Three stars. For heaven’s sake buy this album. The Doors are one of the king’s of classic rock.).

http://www.gibson.co...the-doors-1123/

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Doors Jam with Albert King on Live Album
Bryan Wawzenek|11.23.2010

Doors fans are getting the opportunity to hear a full concert from the rock legends on the new album The Doors – Live in Vancouver 1970. The show was recorded at the Pacific Coliseum in Canada on June 6, a little more than a year before frontman Jim Morrison’s death. Released today in the U.S., the concert recording has often appeared as a bootleg and retains a reputation as an excellent Doors performance.

Part of what makes this Doors concert special is a guest appearance by blues legend Albert King. The bluesman lent his guitar talents to four songs with The Doors, including “Rock Me,” “Who Do You Love” and the Motown classic, “Money (That’s What I Want).”

In the album’s liner notes Doors keyboardist Ray Manzarek remembers the evening: “What a funky night ... Jim singing his ass off with the prod in the butt by a legendary old blues man.”

Click here to listen to the recording of “Money.”

http://www.spinner.c...vancouver-money

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The Doors, 'Money' Feat. Albert King (Live in Vancouver, 1970) -- Song Premiere
Posted on Nov 22nd 2010 12:15PM by Adam Horne  

Fans of the Doors will get a rare chance to relive one of the iconic band's best live shows courtesy of the just-released double-disc concert album 'The Doors -- Live in Vancouver 1970.' Recorded at the Pacific Coliseum in Vancouver, the show featured a guest appearance from blues legend Albert King, who lent his trademark chops to Jim Morrison and company on four blues songs, including 'Rock Me,' Who Do You Love' and the Motown classic, 'Money.'

Doors keyboardist Ray Manzarek recalls the night well in the album's liner notes. "What a funky night ... Jim singing his ass off with the prod in the butt by a legendary old blues man." Get a taste of this epic musical collaboration after the jump, as King sits in with the band on 'Money.'

Listen to 'Money'

[secrethostofthetownship]

Pedro Kazit, on 27 November 2010 - 10:30 PM, said:

Video Doors fan:  

Love it!

It's just a cd.But it's no ordinary cd.

It's...THE DOORS MOTHER-F*CKERS!!!

[secrethostofthetownship]

Shebang, on 28 November 2010 - 10:40 PM, said:

The Doors Live in Vancouver is getting good reviews

http://wizbangpop.co...vancouver-1970/





http://www.gibson.co...the-doors-1123/





http://www.spinner.c...vancouver-money

Yeah i was born in Vancouver & almost 16 months old and about a stones throw from the P.N.E. ( and most likely asleep ) as this concert was going on.Now many moons later i can re-live the entire concert (in the best sound possible) as it happened those many years back.

Haven't received my cd yet,but the song "samples" sound real sweet.Can't wait to check it out.

To Jeff & team,thanks again folks for your efforts!

Edited by secrethostofthetownship, 29 November 2010 - 12:36 AM.

[daniel@falaschi.net]

Hamlet, on 27 November 2010 - 04:04 PM, said:

well, then don´t buy it! You support your own idiotic argument by buying it, genius!

Who said I bought it genius?

[jymwrite]

I don't get why people say the sound is bad. It isn't. I listened to the CD abt 4-5 times before I wrote a review. Then after I started reading the negative reviews abt the sound I listened again and listening for what people were talking about. For the most part I didn't hear what the negative reviews were mentioning. Hiss-I've listened on a computer and a car CD player never have heard any hiss or tape movement. The sound quality isn't a good as last years Felt Forum shows, but it's not bad either!

Morrison's singing, yes, some times he sounds tired and probably hung over from the previous nights Seattle show, but that's The Doors. I've always read The Doors could be great or not so good from night to night depending on Jim, I think this is a rather good show, more than worth the money.

The samples on Amazon are pretty close to the sound quality of the CD, listen to those and make up your own mind on whether it's something you should get or not.

[Hamlet]

daniel@falaschi.net, on 29 November 2010 - 12:38 PM, said:

Who said I bought it genius?

Not me!