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[secrethostofthetownship]

Pats Radio, on 13 May 2010 - 12:01 PM, said:

Why would you want cut songs? I don't want edit versions on CD. Your missing the point. Singles should be on Vinyl only. I want them to be released how they were back then not today. If they want to release b-sides and other rare stuff than we can wait for another rarities CD. This is a totally different project, Pal.



Pats Radio

I would rather have the "Singles Collection" on cd if they were going to do either vinyl or cd and NOT both.
As far as why one(me-self)would want "cut songs" on cd or slight alterations of songs?Well,because i have the "FULL SONGS" already on the studio albums.Both on cd & to vinyl.And i find i play my cds more then vinyl to begin with.

If this were to be a TRUE & ONLY "Singles Collection" and being faithful to that vision,well then yes of course it would make sense to ONLY make this collection available on vinyl.Chances are though,not going to happen.My guess(i like to believe it is somewhat an educational one)they'd sell more of the "collection" if it were on cd then on vinyl.Unless of course a VERY slim number of copies were made to vinyl.

The fact of the matter is vinyl died a loooooooooong time ago.It is not what the majority of people buy.The reason why it has had some resurgence in the past years is because often vinyl records are released as "Limited" or "Special" edition sets ("Anniversary","Commerative",etc).

I haven't got any qualms w/ vinyl.Heck i bought the Doors' Vinyl set(2 infact).But,between either a cd collection or vinyl collection,i'd go for the cd collection.I'll probably buy both IF they are both made available.And perhaps they just might be.

Edited by secrethostofthetownship, 13 May 2010 - 04:52 PM.

[Pats Radio]

secrethostofthetownship, on 13 May 2010 - 04:51 PM, said:

I would rather have the "Singles Collection" on cd if they were going to do either vinyl or cd and NOT both.
As far as why one(me-self)would want "cut songs" on cd or slight alterations of songs?Well,because i have the "FULL SONGS" already on the studio albums.Both on cd & to vinyl.And i find i play my cds more then vinyl to begin with.

If this were to be a TRUE & ONLY "Singles Collection" and being faithful to that vision,well then yes of course it would make sense to ONLY make this collection available on vinyl.Chances are though,not going to happen.My guess(i like to believe it is somewhat an educational one)they'd sell more of the "collection" if it were on cd then on vinyl.Unless of course a VERY slim number of copies were made to vinyl.

The fact of the matter is vinyl died a loooooooooong time ago.It is not what the majority of people buy.The reason why it has had some resurgence in the past years is because often vinyl records are released as "Limited" or "Special" edition sets ("Anniversary","Commerative",etc).

I haven't got any qualms w/ vinyl.Heck i bought the Doors' Vinyl set(2 infact).But,between either a cd collection or vinyl collection,i'd go for the cd collection.I'll probably buy both IF they are both made available.And perhaps they just might be.

That's fair but the singles collection would only be a limited number so vinyl would fit that. To me a CD singles collection is just another box of stuff we already own (yes I know they're cut versions) but I'm looking at this as a "TRUE" collectable not as a regular box set. Let's see what they do here...In the end, I'm the guy who will buy it regardless of what they do.




Pats Radio

[Hyacinth Frog]

Not sure I'd be interested in this, unless their are b-sides etc. with really cool packaging on cd.  Otherwise it would be insanely stupid to release on cd.

I hated the remixed 2007 albums so I stuck with the 1999 mini-vinyl set.

But, like I said if this was released with tons of b-sides alternate takes etc. with cool mini-vinyl packaging I'd consider throwing down.

[The Royal Sperm]

any news on this? considering that the 4000 sets of l.a.woman 7" had very good sales, now that you can see that is there market to singles vinyl box sets, this box will be a dream come true?

[Pats Radio]

I'm praying this is the "hush hush" project Jeff talked about.



Pats Radio

[DoorsFanPeter]

Hyacinth Frog, on 14 May 2010 - 08:42 PM, said:

Not sure I'd be interested in this, unless their are b-sides etc. with really cool packaging on cd.  Otherwise it would be insanely stupid to release on cd.

a mini box of cd singles would be stupid.  I've seen the Stones/Blondie/Beatles ones.  Vinyl singles in a box would be cool.

I also would pick up a single cd comp of all the single mixes.  Just like I would pick up a cd release of the mono first album.

Not sure where the mono SD or WFTS tracks should find a home.

[Xcitement soon unfolds]

I would love a solid collection of 60-80 minute discs, with the single versions on them in chronological order. The singles are an underestimated, not-much-talked-about field in Doors archaeology. There are lots of exciting differences, additions and eliminations in these tracks.  It's about time someone official starts digging and unearthing these raw, unpolished jewels. I'd like to hear them complete with needle-drops, hiss, clicks and ticks.

The result might look like this:



THE STEREO SINGLES COLLECTION
Track list and specific information


THE DOORS (1967)
Break on through 2.25 (LP: 2.25)
Elektra 45123 (Spun Gold), USA 1980 or later

Light my fire 3.06 (LP: 7.05)
No solos.
Elektra 45051-2 promo CD-single, USA 1992

The crystal ship 2.30 (LP: 2.30)
EP Elektra SJET-489, Japan 1968

Backdoor man 3.33 (LP: 3.30)
EP Gamma GX07-727, Mexico


STRANGE DAYS (1967)
People are strange 2.10 (LP: 2.10)
Elektra 45123 (Spun Gold), USA 1980 or later

Love me two times 3.07 (LP: 3.14 [not 3.23, as most sleeves indicate])
Elektra E-45051 (Spun Gold), USA 1980 or later


WAITING FOR THE SUN (1968)
The unknown soldier 3.21 (LP: 3.21 [not 3.10, as most sleeves indicate])
Elektra EK-45628. The Netherlands 1968

We could be so good together 2.10 (LP: 2.21)
Bonus track. Intro as on LP, title chorus after guitar solo cut out.
From 1985 German CD release of Waiting for the sun.

Hello I love you 2.20 (LP: 2.20)
Elektra EK-45635, The Netherlands 1968

Love street 2.51 (LP: 3.06)
Elektra EK-45635, USA 1968

Not to touch the earth 3.58 (LP: 3.54)
Elektra ELE-12527, Portugal 1980


THE SOFT PARADE (1969)
Touch me 3.10 (LP: 3.10)
“Stronger than dirt” not audible.
Elektra EK-45646, The Netherlands 1968

Wild child 2.35 (LP: 2.35)
Elektra EK-45646, USA 1968

Wishful sinful 2.56 (LP: 2.56)
With a little more edgy sound.
Elektra EK-45656, USA 1969

Who scared you 3.52 (LP: 3.52)
Instrumental theme (at 1.50) without Morrison ad-libbing “ooh” and “pfooh”. No LP track.
Elektra EK-45656, The Netherlands 1969

Who scared you 3.18 (LP: 3.52)
Bonus track. One verse is cut (“well my room is so cold”). No LP track.
From The Doors Box Set, Elektra 7559-62123-2 USA 1997

Tell all the people 3.31 (LP: 3.20)
Longer fade-out includes Jim ad-libbing “ooh!” after “follow me down, you gotta follow me down”.
Elektra JET-1909, Japan 1969

Easy ride 2.40 (LP: 2.35)
Elektra EK-45663, The Netherlands 1969

Runnin’ blue 2.26 (LP: 2.27)
Elektra EKS-45675, The Netherlands 1969

Do it 3.04 (LP: 3.08)
Excludes the intro rap by John and Ray. Also available in stereo complete with intro rap.
Elektra EKS-45675, USA 1969

Do it 2.16 (LP: 3.08)
No intro rap, 2nd verse cut out (“Listen to me children.... / You are the ones who...”), short fade out in drum coda.
Source unknown.


MORRISON HOTEL (1970)
You make me real 2.47 (LP: 2.50)
Elektra Int. 80234, France 1970

Roadhouse blues 4.03 (LP: 4.03)
Elektra EK-45685, The Netherlands 1970

Roadhouse blues 4.03 (LP: 4.03)
Right-left channels mirrored.
Elektra Int. 80222, France 1970

Peace frog 2.56 (LP: 2.52)
Elektra ELK-12032, The Netherlands 1971

Blue Sunday 2.04 (LP: 2.08)
Elektra 2101 008, UK 1970

The spy 4.15 (LP: 4.15)
Elektra 2101 004, UK 1970

Land ho! 2.57 (LP: 4.08)
Early fade out.
Elektra JET-1966, Japan 1970

Waiting for the sun 3.58 (LP: 3.58)
Elektra ELK-12032, The Netherlands 1971

Waiting for the sun 3.58 (LP: 3.58)
Right-left channels mirrored.
Elektra Int. 80222, France 1970


L.A. WOMAN (1971)
Riders on the storm 4.43 (LP: 7.14)
Thunderstorm intro missing, piano solo edited.
Elektra EKS-607, UK, year unknown

Riders on the storm 4.40 (LP: 7.14)
With complete thunderstorm intro, early fade out.
Radio promo-EP SAM-272, UK 1988

Riders on the storm 3.20 (LP: 7.14)
Edited storm intro, no piano solo, early fade out.
Elektra K-12203, UK 1976

The changeling 4.15 (LP: 4.18)
Bonus track. Vocals (“I live uptown”) start one beat too early – 3rd count of funky theme [0.37], compared to 0.39 on original CD.
From Polish CD edition of L.A. woman (with Oliver Stone Doors characters on cover). Selles SELL 1193, Poland 2000

The changeling 3.29 (LP: 4.18)
Shorter intro, 2nd chorus (“I had money/I had none”) edited.
Elektra Exulta 12021, Germany 1971

Love her madly 2.45 (LP: 3.18)
Early fade out.
Elektra Exulta 12011, Germany 1971

(You need meat) Don’t go no further 3.46
Ray counts off into the song. No LP track
Elektra EKS-45725, USA 1971

Hyacinth house 3.10 (LP: 3.10)
EP Gamma GX07-720, Mexico

Cars hiss by my window 4.10 (LP: 4.10)
EP Gamma GX07-720, Mexico


OTHER VOICES (1971)
Tightrope ride 3.41 (LP: 4.15)
Shorter intro, vocals cut out (“It’s a very good game”), different bright mix.
Elektra EKS-45757, USA 1971

Variety is the spice of life 2.49 (LP: 2.50)
Elektra ELK-12036, The Netherlands 1971

Ships w/ sails 3.38 (LP: 7.34)
Organ themes edited, no duplication of vocal part.
Elektra ELK-12048, The Netherlands 1972

Action! (or -ection) (reverse) 0.29
Bonus track. Intro of In the eye of the sun, played backwards.

In the eye of the sun 4.16 (LP: 4.46)
Guitar theme introducing wah-wah slide guitar solo cut out.
Elektra ELK-12048, Germany 1972


FULL CIRCLE (1972)
Get up and dance 2.33 (LP: 2.33 [not 2.25, as LP sleeve indicates])
Elektra EKS-45793, USA 1972

Tree trunk 2.59
No LP track.
Elektra ELK-12059, Germany 1972

The mosquito 5.17 (LP: 5.17)
EP Gamma GX07-773, Mexico

It slipped my mind 3.11 (LP: 3.11)
Elektra ELK-45807, The Netherlands 1972

The piano bird 3.39 (LP: 5.44)
Shorter intro, first flute solo and following chorus cut out, brighter mix.
Elektra ELK-12091, The Netherlands 1972

Good rockin’ 4.39 (LP: 4.39, not 4.22, as sleeve says)
Elektra ELK-12091, The Netherlands 1972


Ghost song 2.53
Short version, drawn from An American Prayer. (Note the absence of ‘The’ in the title. This is the title of the song as it was originally used on An American Prayer.)
SAM-94, UK 1978

The ghost song 4.10
The single version cuts together the two separate parts of the LP track. Guitar theme before solo repeated 4 times.
Elektra EKR205CD, Germany 1995

Roadhouse blues (live) 3.27
From promo CD single, note the variation in opening guitar riff.
Elektra PRCD 8361 2, USA 1991

The end 6.30 (Apocalypse Now)
Apocalypse Now mix, including ‘fuck/kill’ chant.
Elektra K-12400 12” single, UK 1979

The end 4.10 (Apocalypse Now)
Apocalypse Now mix, including ‘fuck/kill’ chant.
Elektra ELK-22032 12” single, Germany 1979

Delta 2.41 (Apocalypse Now)
No Doors track.
Elektra ELK-22032 12” single, Germany 1979

Gloria 3.11
‘Clean edit’ from longer Aquarius rehearsal.
Elektra EAOR 4942, USA 1983

Light my fire (live) 2.59
Live edit taken from Live at the Hollywood Bowl, also released as a single (Elektra ED 5245, USA 1987)



THE MONO SINGLES COLLECTION
(all selections are taken from original mono singles)

THE DOORS (1967)
Break on through 2.24 (LP: 2.25)
EP Vogue Int. 18129, France 1967

End of the night 2.53 (LP: 2.49)
EP Vogue Int. 18129, France 1967

Light my fire 2.55 (LP: 7.05)
No solos, different edit in middle section, compared to the stereo single version.
Elektra EK-45615, USA 1967

The crystal ship 2.30 (LP: 2.30)
Vogue HV-2097, The Netherlands 1967

Alabama song 3.15 (LP: 3.15)
EP Vogue Int. 18129, France 1967

Backdoor man 3.33 (LP: 3.30)
EP Vogue Int. 18129, France 1967

Soul kitchen 3.30 (LP: 3.30)
EP Gamma GX07-741, Mexico

I looked at you 2.22 (LP: 2.18)
EP Capitol Records, Thailand

Take it as it comes 2.16 (LP: 2.13)
EP Capitol Records, Thailand


STRANGE DAYS (1967)
People are strange 2.10 (LP: 2.10)
Elektra EK-45621, USA 1967

Unhappy girl 1.56 (LP: 2.00)
Percussion is better audible.
Vogue HV 2099, France 1967

Love me two times 2.39 (LP: 3.14 [not 3.23, as most sleeves indicate])
End of keyboard solo edited, chorus cut out.
Vogue Int. 80120, France 1967

Moonlight drive 2.55 (LP: 3.00)
Guitar solo edited.
Vogue Int. 80120, France 1967


WAITING FOR THE SUN (1968)
The unknown soldier 3.07 (LP: 3.21 [not 3.10, as most sleeves indicate])
Real gunshot, no victory bells, earlier fade out.
Elektra EK-45628, The Netherlands 1968

We could be so good together 2.21 (LP: 2.21)
Different, more crispy bass intro.
Elektra EK-45628, The Netherlands 1968

Hello I love you 2.12 (LP: 2.20)
Vedette VRN 34087, Italy

Love street 2.46 (LP: 3.06)
EP Gamma GX07-741, Mexico

Not to touch the earth 3.52 (LP: 3.54)
MTR-277, Thailand, year unknown

Wintertime love 1.50 (LP: 1.52)
EP Gamma GX07-741, Mexico

Five to one 4.19 (LP: 4.22)
EP Gamma GX07-741, Mexico


THE SOFT PARADE (1969)
Touch me 3.10 (LP: 3.10)
“Stronger than dirt” inaudible.
Elektra EK-45646, USA 1968

Wild child 2.35 (LP: 2.35)
Jim’s maracas are clearly audible during the intro.
Elektra EK-45646, USA 1968

Wishful sinful 2.49 (LP: 2.56)
Elektra EK-45656, USA 1969

Who scared you 3.51 (LP: 3.52)
Organ barely audible.
Metronome J 27020, Germany 1969

Tell all the people 3.21 (LP: 3.20)
Vogue Int. 80193, France 1969

Tell all the people 3.16 (LP: 3.20)
Verse after guitar solo is deleted.
Elektra EKM-45663, USA 1969

Easy ride 2.40 (LP: 2.35)
Elektra Int. 80193, France 1969

Runnin’ blue 2.29 (LP: 2.27)
Vogue Int. 80212, France 1969

Do it 3.04 (LP: 3.08)
Vogue Int. 80212, France 1969


MORRISON HOTEL (1970)
You make me real 2.50 (LP: 2.50)
“C’mon” audible during intro, an occasional “whooooo” is better audible.
Elektra EKM-45685, USA 1970

Roadhouse blues 3.45 (LP: 4.03)
Guitar solo and voice chanting edited.
Metronome J 27056, Germany 1970

Land ho! 3.35 (LP: 4.08)
Early fade out.
Vedette VRN 34107, Italy


L.A. WOMAN (1971)
Love her madly 2.45 (LP: 3.18)
Early fade out.
Elektra-Exulta 12011, Germany 1971

(You need meat) Don’t go no further 3.46
Ray counts off into the song, no LP track.
Elektra-Exulta 12011, Germany 1971

Riders on the storm 4.43 (LP: 7.14)
Thunderstorm intro missing, piano solo edited.
Elektra EKS-607, UK or K-12021, UK 1981

The changeling 3.22 (LP: 4.18)
Elektra EKS-607, UK or K-12021, UK 1981


OTHER VOICES (1971)
Tightrope ride 3.34 (LP: 4.15)
Elektra 12035, France 1971

Variety is the spice of life 2.47 (LP: 2.50)
Elektra 12035, France 1971

Ships w/ sails 3.42 (LP: 7.34)
Organ themes edited, no duplication of vocal part, earlier fade out.
Elektra EK-55768, USA 1972


FULL CIRCLE (1972)
Get up and dance 2.33 (LP: 2.33 [not 2.25, as LP sleeve indicates]).
Elektra 12059, France 1972

Tree trunk 2.59
No LP track.
Elektra 12059, France 1972

The mosquito 2.50 (LP: 5.17)
Different order of organ themes, three vocal verses instead of two on LP track.
Elektra ELK-45807, The Netherlands 1972

It slipped my mind 3.11 (LP: 3.11)
Elektra 72402, Turkey

The piano bird 3.38 (LP: 5.44)
Elektra EK-45825-A promo-single, USA 1972


Roadhouse blues (live) 3.59
Variation in opening guitar riff.
Elektra E-46005-A promo-single (White label), USA

Gloria 3.11
‘Clean edit’ from longer Aquarius rehearsal, guitar mixed down.
Source unknown

[The Royal Sperm]

yes Fred, is a new world! some of the parts of the singles can be listen on the 40th anniversary mixes

[DoorsFanPeter]

The Royal Sperm, on 06 December 2011 - 10:34 PM, said:

yes Fred, is a new world! some of the parts of the singles can be listen on the 40th anniversary mixes

That's a bit beside the point.

Collectors deserve a 1-stop( & digital debut)way of aquiring the single versions that made original fans interesting int he band int he first place.  Plus it was approved by the band/production tema/label when Jim was still around.

On his forum Steve Hoffman has written a couple paragrpahs how the single LMTT smokes every version released since.