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[hardrockcafe]

Jeff do you think a Felt Forum box set configured as a hybrid 5.1 SACD would recoup the adding mixing/production investment?

Considering how fast the Perception box of 20,000 sold out, maybe this is an indication of a great deal of demand for 5.1 Doors material?

If you release Felt Forum as a hybrid SACD in 5.1, you wouldn't need to have a second disc like with a DVD-A. All audio content, redbook and hi-rez could be contained on individual discs. But you don't get errors like you do with Dualdisc, which is a failed product.

You could have a stereo redbook CD mix on 1 layer.  And then the SACD layer could contain both the stereo mix in hi-rez as well as they 5.1 mix in hi-rez.

I think such a box could easily go toe to toe sales-wise with recent Grateful Dead 10CD Fillmore box, which sold 10000 copies.

And I recall reading the Detroit or Aquarius liner notes where Botnick mentioned he made 5.1 mixes of those BMA releases. So maybe Botnick is already making 5.1s of the concert material anyway?

[mikegraham]

Anybody check out Joe Cocker Mad Dogs Complete Fillmore ? 2 nights in 70 2 shows per night 6 cds Limited edition sold only on net. Sounds Awesome I hope Felt Forum is this good

[hardrockcafe]

I guess Warner only supports DVDs?  So SACD is not possible?

[door71]

Felt Forum would be a GREAT release.

Those 4 shows are very musically tight ........plus I wanna hear the missing early show............that we haven't heard.

In all ther glory.

:jim:  :john:  :robbie:  :ray: Jeff, Bruce .......... give us some killer shows.

[ReedB926]

I'm all for a Felt Forum Box. I just hope Bruce Botnick makes sure all of the pieces are put back together so there isn't anything missing like with the Philly show. I especially want to hear the "is everybody in" section back in Celebration of the Lizard. It was missing on the 97 box set.

[StrangeDay67]

I thought the New York show was good, but not Jim at his best.

[jim4371]

I thought the New York show was good, but not Jim at his best.
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[dj_vera]

I thought the New York show was good, but not Jim at his best.
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Overall, the Felt Forum shows are the best of the Absolutely Live multitrack recordings and arguably the best of the 1970 tour.

[derekarmstrong]

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[StrangeNightOfStone]

After Boston comes out, the NYC Felt Forum shows are what I am most eager to see put out- all 4 shows, with a booklet crammed with photos- .....

'The Gloria/Easy ride/My Eyes Have Seen you' medley was a superb way to close the show- pity jim;s voice was gone by that point- but still stellar nonetheless...


Im curious if the Doors did a soundcheck at the felt Forum, and if so, was it recorded/
Of course we have the Aqaurius Theatre soundcheck.....

What was the story behind the tune 'Goin to NY' (NY Quiz Show)?

[StrangeNightOfStone]

I thought the New York show was good, but not Jim at his best.

I totally agree- the Felt Forum performances don't hold a candle to the Matrix, Back Bay Theatre, Roundhouse, Danish tv  or critique performances- but the sound quality is stunningly good, and the band in top form- Jim's totally loses his voice during the final set. Even so, i want to see it released..

[daniel@falaschi.net]

I think the felt forum shows are the best of all of the shows recorded for AL. Let´s face it, Jim was by this time (´70)fed up of The Doors and his performances demonstarte that.
Perhaps being in NY was exciting eough for him to deliver a great performance.

[The Royal Sperm]

i think that the release date of the FF box must be on  Jan 17 (or 18) 2007 for the 37th annyversary of that great shows

elektra made a party after these shows 'cause they sold all sits, right?

[StrangeNightOfStone]

Does anyome have handy the set list for the 1st set on the 17th?

[harvey63]

1. Roadhouse Blues
2. Break On Through
3. Ship Of Fools
4. Alabama Song->
5. Backdoor Man
6. Five To One
7. Crawling King Snake
8. Build Me a Women
9. Peace Frog

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage.../setlist70.html

[Silver Forest]

:nono: Well, I have a different setlist.
I'm sorry but I can't mention the source (I think it was a post from this forum).
This is the one I have:

1/17/70 early set
-Roadhouse Blues (some was used on "Essential Rarities")
-Ship Of Fools
-Break On Through (BMR sampler)
-Peace Frog ('97 box set)
-Blue Sunday ('97 box set)
-Alabama Song (possibly used on Absolutely Live)
-Back Door Man
-Five To One
-Little Red Rooster (used on Alive She Cried)
-Money ('97 box set)
-Who do you love
-Light My Fire
-Soul Kitchen

I'm not sure if this is the true and complete setlist, but it agrees well with an audiofile that circulates.
SF

[The Royal Sperm]

this info was provided for wha happened a year ago i thnik


Felt Forum 1/17/70 early show
-Roadhouse Blues: most of this was released on the Essential Rarities cd. The first half was used on the American Prayer version of RHB
-Ship Of Fools
-Break On Through: BMA Sampler/Live In America
-Peace Frog: 1997 box set (overdubs)
-Blue Sunday: 1997 box set (overdubs)
-Alabama Song: Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Back Door Man
-Five To One
-Who Do You Love: Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Little Red Rooster: Alive She Cried (John Sebastian overdubs)
-Money: 1997 box set (overdubs? need to check)
-Light My Fire
-Soul Kitchen
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Felt Forum 1/17/70 late show
-Roadhouse Blues*: a good chunk used on the 1997 box set
-Break On Through*
-Ship Of Fools*
-Crawling King Snake*: 1997 box set (overdubs?)
-Alabama Song*
-Back Door Man*
-Five To One*: portions missing on the master
-Build Me A Woman*: Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Who Do You Love
-Wild Child (aborted)
"New York has the grooviest people" (1997 box set)
-When The Music's Over: Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Light My Fire
-Soul Kitchen>Lord's prayer
Fish store joke
-Bring Out Your Dead>The End*: 1997 box set (overdubs)
* these songs are circulating on the audience recording
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Felt Forum 1/18/70 early show
-Roadhouse Blues*: a portion is missing on the audience tape
-Ship Of Fools*
-Break On Through*
-Universal Mind*
-Alabama Song false start>Alabama Song*
-Back Door Man*
-Five To One*: a portion is cut from the master
-Moonlight Drive>Horse Latitudes*: Alive She Cried (overdubs), a portion of HL is missing on the audience tape
-Who Do You Love*
-Money*
-Light My Fire*
-When The Music's Over*
*circulating on the audience tape
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Felt Forum 1/18/70 late show
-Roadhouse Blues*
-Peace Frog*
-Alabama Song*
-Back Door Man*: Absolutely Live (cut from the master)
-Five To One*: a portion is cut from the master
-Celebration of the Lizard*: 1997 box set (Wake Up portion cut and used on the Dance On Fire video intro)
-Build Me A Woman*: 1997 box set (overdubs?)
-When The Music's Over*
-Soul Kitchen>Lord's prayer*
patriotic rap :1997 box set
"petition the lord with prayer!" : Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Light My Fire*
-Rock Me*
-Close To You: Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Ship Of Fools*
-Goin' To New York*
-Maggie M'Gill*
-Gloria>My Eyes Have Seen You*
*circulating on the audience tape, audience tape tracks are out of order

[Liberty Man]

this info was provided for wha happened a year ago i thnik

Felt Forum 1/18/70 late show
-Roadhouse Blues*
-Peace Frog*
-Alabama Song*
-Back Door Man*: Absolutely Live (cut from the master)
-Five To One*: a portion is cut from the master
-Celebration of the Lizard*: 1997 box set (Wake Up portion cut and used on the Dance On Fire video intro)
-Build Me A Woman*: 1997 box set (overdubs?)
-When The Music's Over*
-Soul Kitchen>Lord's prayer*
patriotic rap :1997 box set
"petition the lord with prayer!" : Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Light My Fire*
-Rock Me*
-Close To You: Absolutely Live (cut from master)
-Ship Of Fools*
-Goin' To New York*
-Maggie M'Gill*
-Gloria>My Eyes Have Seen You*
*circulating on the audience tape, audience tape tracks are out of order

I'm not so sure of the setlist of 18 late. Ship Of Fools included in the circulating audience recording is the same than the one of 17 late, I noted this recently shifting the pitch of my 4 FF shows.
And it's strange that it was played just between songs with John Sebastian then Dallas Taylor, id for Close To You. In the early 70's SOF was more often played in the 1st part of the show, very near from RHB.
It would be interesting if Dave could give us the official setlist of the different FF shows