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[Cazzaminx]

Hi Scream:

It's nice to hear from you - your posts are always gracious and upbeat....

As someone who lived with a man who had a "drinking problem" maybe her book was more profound to me than others. I related all too well with her feelings and actions even at my ripe old age of 40 something....I too fell in love with a man who was maybe not famous in the known, "famous" sense but was extremely intelligent and attractive. But I found because of that he was very insecure and vulnerable, very much like Jim. I wish that people would keep from classifying Jim him as "icon" status. He was a brilliant human being. a poet and a writer  - hell maybe he did influence a generation however, he was mortal and human and should command respect regardless.

You know, I hear the younger people talk like he is an object. I just would have loved to have sat down with him and partied. Listened to some great music and excellent books and just shot the shit....But then thats 35 years of hindsight...
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Well said!  At the ripe old age of 38, I couldn't agree more!

Also, I do believe it doesn't matter how long you know someone, or how many times you've met;  it's all about impressions...  The majority of us never even met him, but look at his effect...

[screamofthebutterfly]

Hi Scream:

It's nice to hear from you - your posts are always gracious and upbeat....

As someone who lived with a man who had a "drinking problem" maybe her book was more profound to me than others. I related all too well with her feelings and actions even at my ripe old age of 40 something....I too fell in love with a man who was maybe not famous in the known, "famous" sense but was extremely intelligent and attractive. But I found because of that he was very insecure and vulnerable, very much like Jim. I wish that people would keep from classifying Jim him as "icon" status. He was a brilliant human being. a poet and a writer  - hell maybe he did influence a generation however, he was mortal and human and should command respect regardless.

You know, I hear the younger people talk like he is an object. I just would have loved to have sat down with him and partied. Listened to some great music and excellent books and just shot the shit....But then thats 35 years of hindsight...
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Hi Dixie, Thank you very much.  I can relate to what you're talking about.  My last boyfriend had a drinking problem which ended up killing him.

[Dixie]

I'm so sorry Scream. My heart goes out to you. It must have been so hard to watch someone you care deeply about slowly destroy themselves. Those of us who witness the destruction can only offer our love and support and we never think it is enough but it's all we can do..... And sometimes even with our love and support they still tragically leave us or we choose to leave them but never to abandon them...

When those threads on "why didn't Jim's friends stop him from drinking come up" ....I gotta take a deep breath and just shake my head because unless you've experienced a friend's addiction or even your own people just don't get it...

[onetruecrime]

I bought this book ages ago of amazon.co.uk 2nd hand, It's quite a good book as imo it gives you a very human picture of jim and the book is down to earth so to speak.

How would the story of (Page 180) jim walking around pere lachaise with someone  shortly before he died get back to the U.S  so quick after he died?.
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Never read it.  Does she have a website?

[screamofthebutterfly]

I'm so sorry Scream. My heart goes out to you. It must have been so hard to watch someone you care deeply about slowly destroy themselves. Those of us who witness the destruction can only offer our love and support and we never think it is enough but it's all we can do..... And sometimes even with our love and support they still tragically leave us or we choose to leave them but never to abandon them...

When those threads on "why didn't Jim's friends stop him from drinking come up" ....I gotta take a deep breath and just shake my head because unless you've experienced a friend's addiction or even your own people just don't get it...
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Thank you so much.  It was very hard.  I would talk to him, his friends would talk to him, but he just couldn't stop.  I agree, unless you've experienced it first hand, other people just won't understand.

[universalmind69]

I recently bought this book and I finished it in one day...I really liked it.

What I especially found interesting was her perception of Jim and his behaviour and how he changed over the 3.5-4 years she knew him...

No matter what people say this is HER view and perception of Jim and the time she spent with him....not some atempt from her side to sensationalize or even try to find a "key" to all that was Jim Morrison.
No, she didn`t share that many moments with him, but each and everyone of them were "intimate" in one way or another, and IMO that makes up for her not being involved with him regularly...
Not to mention that he over these years repeatedly turned to her when it seemed like he was hurting and needing comfort the most.
It also tells of her amazement over how quickly and radically his personality would shift....seemingly like flicking a switch, very fascinating..

What I`m left with is the impression of a Jim Morrison that never quite felt that anyone understood him...and at times felt lost in the very world that he and his career had created around him.
A sad story in many ways, but seemingly very truthfully told.

An important brick in the multifaceted wall of Morrisons personality...

k:

[jodikay]

UM69, Where did you buy the book from?

[universalmind69]

UM69, Where did you buy the book from?
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ebay..$7

Just google the book, use your time and you`ll find a reasonably priced copy...

[jodikay]

Thanks!!

[derekarmstrong]

Can anyone post the photos mentioned in the book? Jim wearing a sombrero sounds hilarious.

[universalmind69]

Can anyone post the photos mentioned in the book? Jim wearing a sombrero sounds hilarious.
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there isn`t any photos like that in the book...no rare photos at all

[becauseofJim]

I recently bought this book and I finished it in one day...I really liked it.

What I especially found interesting was her perception of Jim and his behaviour and how he changed over the 3.5-4 years she knew him...

No matter what people say this is HER view and perception of Jim and the time she spent with him....not some atempt from her side to sensationalize or even try to find a "key" to all that was Jim Morrison.
No, she didn`t share that many moments with him, but each and everyone of them were "intimate" in one way or another, and IMO that makes up for her not being involved with him regularly...
Not to mention that he over these years repeatedly turned to her when it seemed like he was hurting and needing comfort the most.
It also tells of her amazement over how quickly and radically his personality would shift....seemingly like flicking a switch, very fascinating..

What I`m left with is the impression of a Jim Morrison that never quite felt that anyone understood him...and at times felt lost in the very world that he and his career had created around him.
A sad story in many ways, but seemingly very truthfully told.

An important brick in the multifaceted wall of Morrisons personality...

k:
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Apparently your impression and mine are the same--a sad,misunderstood genius  

[Cazzaminx]

Just had to say, after seeing this book for sale at £40 - £50 a throw (as it's a bit of a catch) I logged onto Amazon UK and it was there!  Used!  For £20!  Snapped it up and awaiting delivery.  After all I've read, I can't wait.

Hurrah!

:cheers:

Now just need to keep my eyes peeled for 'On the Road'...

And of course a signed 'American Prayer'...

*sigh*

(Remortgage the house time!)

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[I am The one]

:ranting:

I am so jealous of everyone that has read this book.

I have looked everywhere. I went to Amazon but I have never bought anything off online before.

Can someone give an example of how Jim would be mean to her sometimes?

[jodikay]

:ranting:

I am so jealous of everyone that has read this book.

I have looked everywhere. I went to Amazon but I have never bought anything off online before.

Can someone give an example of how Jim would be mean to her sometimes?
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I would, but I can't I haven't read it yet either!    

[Soul kitchen Sue]

:ranting:

I am so jealous of everyone that has read this book.

I have looked everywhere. I went to Amazon but I have never bought anything off online before.

Can someone give an example of how Jim would be mean to her sometimes?
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I bought my copy off of Amazon.  It's safe and easy.  

There are too many instances in the book that might suggest he was being mean.  For the most part, she was a very impressionable teen ager who was strung out on drugs and very emotional about Jim as her one and only, even though she was not his.

As much as people have said this is an honest book about him, I think that she added her own drama to the relationship, as anyone else does.   I felt she painted him like an egotistic asshole, which I don't believe is the case.  And for someone who claims to love him, all she does is write about things she hates about him: lilke his mole by his nose, his tight pants (the same ones she describes coming off him), etc.

the book left a really bad taste in my mouth.  It saddened me with its darkness.  Though Salli and others say it is pretty accurate, I still deeply feel that Judy created a little more drama than was there, and I don't see her being very fair.

It's a one-sided book from an impressionable teenager who met a rock star and kept over-dramatised journals about her love-sickness with him.    It is a book about a young girl's desent into depression because of taking too many acid trips and winding up in the hospital more times than she could count.

I thought it was a very sad, sad book, and certainly not the fairest of portrails of Morrison.

[jodikay]

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[jodikay]

I was glad to hear your opinion on this book too, UM69.  I consider it as kind of a "heads up"  before I read a book.  It's just helpful to me to have insight and then form my own views. I suppose there might be some people who think it kind of ruins the book for them.  Guess I'm just the opposite.

[I am The one]

Fair Sister. I got your message.  

Good luck with your search I hope you find it.

I went to Amazon and some people are asking a pretty penny for this book.