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#21 clarknova

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 07:14 PM

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we break on through to the other side

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wink.gif yes indeed...straight and simple

#22 DJ_Quinn

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 07:19 PM

We disapear into nothing. That's why I'm downloading all my memories first.

Seriously, there is a German researcher who says that whithin 10 years it will be possible to download memories from the human brain and upload them into some sort of storage. This is the closest to immortality that we will get, as entropy dictates that cells will break down and die and that the human body will last only so long. The big question then becomes the one of consciousness. Because we don't understand the phenonomenon of consciousness hardly at all, i don't hold out much hope that mankind, in this generation at least, will ever devise a way top make these memories self-aware.

Of course, if my body gave out and they could download my entire brain, I would like them to just upload it into someone who is not using theirs, like George Bush.

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 07:21 PM

we never come back...........

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 07:52 PM

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We disapear into nothing. That's why I'm downloading all my memories first.

Seriously, there is a German researcher who says that whithin 10 years it will be possible to download memories from the human brain and upload them into some sort of storage. This is the closest to immortality that we will get, as entropy dictates that cells will break down and die and that the human body will last only so long. The big question then becomes the one of consciousness. Because we don't understand the phenonomenon of consciousness hardly at all, i don't hold out much hope that mankind, in this generation at least, will ever devise a way top make these memories self-aware.

Of course, if my body gave out and they could download my entire brain, I would like them to just upload it into someone who is not using theirs, like George Bush.
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:rolling:  :rolling:  :rolling:  :rolling: Green Day's 'American Idiot' springs to mind on the topic of Bush, I believe he inspired the lyrics.

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we never come back...........
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What do you believe happens?  Do you not believe people's stories of their near death experience?  A three year old boy had one, he met his grandmother there who sent him back to the land of the living.  A child that age would have no reason or even ability to make up something that detailed.

#25 King Morrison

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 07:56 PM

i cant say nothing...

okay i ask: do you like being dead?

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 08:01 PM

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i cant say nothing...

okay i ask: do you like being dead?
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I would'nt know. I have never been dead.   Sometimes I have wished I was dead but only because I was unwell.  I would'nt mind living untill I'm about sixty but I don't want to see myself getting older and more decrepid.

#27 King Morrison

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 08:04 PM

when you die pain is over...i want know what is Jim Morrison“s consciousness right now

#28 Psychedelic Soldier

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 08:19 PM

When we die we die...the question I'd like to know is what is death. We've all got different meanings for the word death. I dunno man  :peace:

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 08:36 PM

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I was watching TV this morning, they were discussing what happens when we die.  There were people on the programme who had had near death experiences and they mentioned floating above their body, seeing very detailed things within the room and a tremendous sense of peace, of no pain.  This made me think of Jim, the way he is said to have had a smile on his lips when he was found in the tub.  If this sense of peace is what he experienced, to me, that explains the smile, that he was finally free from the pressure of fame and released from his addiction.  I hate the idea of dieing, leaving my family behind but if we are all together again on the other side, there is nothing to fear.  Best of all, we could get to meet Jim! biggrin.gif

Apparently near death experiences are the same regardless of religion or race.
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I think that it's possible that the spirit leaves the body and moves on to the next plane of existence to wait to be re-born at a later time.
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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:05 PM

:LTPOS:  Send to the Garden!

#31 Psychedelic Soldier

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:05 PM

Apparantly, there is a sinking feeling, then you see an appearance of smoke, then you see what looks like fireflies or scattering sparks. Then there's a sense of a burning, reddish glow from a flame. At this stage it is considered that the person is now dead because the heart is no longer beating and the person is no longer breathing. In the Buddhists point of view you are still in the process of dying. Your mental consciousness still remains.
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A white appearance dawns, compared to a clear autumn sky filled with just moonlight.
An appearance of radiant red follows, compared to a clear autumn sky filled with reddish or orange sunlight.
Radiant black near-attainment appears when the red dissolves, compared to the complete darkness of a clear autumn sky in the first period of the night.
During the initial part of this level of mind you are still aware, but then the capacity for conscious awareness deteriorates and you become as if unconscious.
When the black dissolves together with the wind that serves as it's mount, the most subtle of all minds appears - the clear light of death, actual death. It is compared to an immaculate dawn sky in autumn. This mind of clear light is called the fundamental mind because it is the root of all minds.

If this is true then I'm sure it's very peaceful to die...as long as I am sleeping peacefully in my bed

#32 ezdan1022

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:06 PM

we live 9 lives til we reach enlightenment and make to to heaven. or, ERR, earn our way there. sounds hard.

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:07 PM

yeah....we sure have got a long way to go..... :shades:

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#34 Bigbrowneyes

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:10 PM

Pagans believe that we go to the Summer Lands once dead, meet our friends and relatives who have already passed on and rest there before being re-born.

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:11 PM

This is not Doors related...send to the GARDEN!!

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:22 PM

"Do you know how pale & wanton thrillful
        comes death on a strange hour
        unanounced, unplanned for

like a scaring over-friendly guest you`ve
        brought to bed

Death makes angels of us all
       & gives us wings

where whe had shoulders
       smooth as raven`s
                claws"


JDM


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.............. :peace:

#37 Psychedelic Soldier

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:27 PM

Was it Native Americans who believed that when you die you go to a place called "happy hunting grounds"? Or did I just make that up  :peace:

#38 Leenie

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 10:11 PM

Energy (Matter)  cannot be created or destroyed .  Science.  Our brains have measurable electrical impulses.  That is how Doctors know when we are brain dead.   Some believe when the organic body dies the "spirit"  or electrical impulses leave the trappings of the body.  Call it the spark of life if you will.   Now you are light, energy,  free!  What are the words to that song?  About a rock in roll band in heaven .  I want front row seatst!  And again to all.... Happy Friday!

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 11:11 PM

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Energy (Matter)  cannot be created or destroyed .  Science.  Our brains have measurable electrical impulses.  That is how Doctors know when we are brain dead.   Some believe when the organic body dies the "spirit"  or electrical impulses leave the trappings of the body.  Call it the spark of life if you will.   Now you are light, energy,  free!  What are the words to that song?  About a rock in roll band in heaven .  I want front row seatst!  And again to all.... Happy Friday!
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Do you believe guys death really exists ?

I think that death is a rational concept that we need to use to call this eternal loss of sences..


i really believe we ll never die
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#40 _Mr_Mojo_Risin_

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 11:50 PM

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