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[FamiliarFreak]

TO ALL DOORS FANS, BOARDS MEMBERS AND MODERATORS

Here is a personal message to all of you from Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger:


When we first envisioned the creation of The Doors Message Boards we had a purpose in mind –-- to foster a place for Doors fans from all over the world to come, be part of a community, and contribute to the legacy of The Doors, as well as provide a safe haven that offered support, understanding and a common, shared purpose: Love of The Doors, Jim Morrison, his poetry, our music, and everything The Doors stand for as a group. We have watched with concern as the message boards have been usurped in their purpose and, through the negativity of several members, have devolved into hate, recrimination and plain old mean-spiritedness. This is no longer a community we can support.

As The Doors, we have had personal disagreements with each other, and we have differing feelings and opinions regarding several issues that are important to us. However, we also have well over thirty years of history with each other and have had, many times over our decades together, differing viewpoints on important issues. This has never stopped us from stating our views, both personally and as Doors members – and it has never stopped us from working together towards our one common goal: the support, concern, and fostering of THE DOORS as a band.

Yes, we have each been guilty of some of the same things we see happening on the boards. Yes, we have each stumbled and sometimes said things in anger that we later regretted. We are not saints, and we are not asking you to be, either. However, The Doors are bigger than any of us individually, and we are all committed to bringing the legacy, the principles we believe in as a band, and the music of The Doors forward for the next generations to come. We have, sometimes with great difficulty and inner turmoil, put our personal feelings aside in order to cooperate in this endeavor. Now we are asking each of you to do the same.

We have decided to make some changes to our message boards. Many of you have strong opinions on issues that are important to you. We encourage you to express your opinions, but to do so IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF LOVE AND SUPPORT, contributing to a positive, uplifting environment where all Doors fans can come. We are not interested in supporting an environment where participants are called names, ridiculed, or viciously attacked, whether the target be any one of you, us, our management team, our advisors or anyone else.

To help in this endeavor, effective immediately we are moving the ROTS board, and all individual member and member project threads, off of The Doors Message Boards and onto each member’s own website. You may go to these individual websites to discuss your opinions about ROTS, Tribaljazz, The Butts Band, The Robby Krieger Band, and other issues not related to The Doors as a whole. However, none of us will tolerate rude behavior on our individual sites, either. We are not interested in anyone coming here to ridicule any one of us, or any of you, for any reason. If you want to do that, find another forum – it’s a free country and a wide world, but here on The Doors Message Boards and on our individual boards, it will not be tolerated.

We have instructed our manager, Jeff Jampol, to watch over the boards, and to permanently ban any member making incendiary or name-calling attacks in their posts. His word will be final and irrevocable. If you disagree with anything that is going on, or with an individual band member’s stance on an issue, we are not censoring you – you are free to speak your mind, in a positive, uplifting, contributory way.

Don’t forget, we have been brothers-in-arms for well over three decades, and none of us is willing to let outsiders or fans come between us, even though we may have attacked each other in the past. That is sometimes - sadly - what brothers do. Yes, there have been a lot of hurt feelings among us, angry sentiments, even bitter infighting that may take a long time to heal – if ever. But we all stand together when it comes to The Doors, and the legacy we wish to leave behind, and we will close ranks to defend against any attacks from outside our inner circle, no matter who the target – or the attacker - may be.

If you wish to go sound off and attack The Doors – or any one of us - feel free to do so, but not on The Doors Message Boards, which we finance and make available to you as a service. We do, however, look forward to continuing to facilitate the spirited discussions among our fans, and even our critics, that we have come to appreciate. Just leave the personal animosities, name-calling, accusations and viciousness at home. Or write to your congressperson!

Love -

Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger
THE DOORS

[FamiliarFreak]

As you have seen from The Doors’ announcement, we have made some major changes in the how the boards are setup and how we will be running them going forward. Some of you are probably wondering how this will affect your day–to-day enjoyment of the boards? For most of you, it won’t, other than the fact that the vibe will be a much more positive one. You will still be able to discuss The Doors (67-71) here on the Lizard Lounge, and Ray/Robby/John “post-Morrison� projects on their respective boards.

Here are some of the other changes you should all be aware of that will effect how we moderate the boards:

We will be lifting all existing bans (with a few specific exceptions). This means that everyone has fresh start and can reinvent themselves on the new boards as they see fit. Everyone is welcome back and can post freely.

We will be starting fresh by archiving all old threads.

The Lizard Lounge and Ray/Robby/John message boards are for fans. If you aren’t a fan, then there is no need for you to post (unless it is a constructive post or question). Please don’t post just to incite arguments. As stated in The Doors’ statement, they want this to be a positive place; not a place for childish fighting.

R.E.S.P.E.C.T! That is one of the other concepts we will be strictly enforcing on the new boards. As The Doors said in their message, the negativism and personal attacking isn’t something they want to see here on their boards. So going forward, disrespectful, condescending posts will not be allowed, and the posters will be dealt with fairly quickly. Debate and disagreements are fine. That’s part of what make these boards great! But the name calling and mean-spiritedness has got to stop. And it will stop. You will be warned once. If you continue breaking this rule you will be put under moderation (where your posts are approved by a moderator before going live). If you continue after that, you will be banned and not allowed back in. The Doors pay for these boards, and these are their rules.

We hope that you support us on these changes and help us to keep things running smoothly. And if you have issues, don’t hesitate to contact a moderator. That’s what we’re here for.

Thanks!
“The Moderators�

[jim4371]

Lie.

[lament of an indian]

Can we read the new rules for the moderators?

[FamiliarFreak]

You just did at the beginning of this thread.   :peace:  
Dave

[Breath Underwater Till The End]

Yes, I did notice that some users on these forums lacked respect for others, thanks for taking action!  

[jim4371]

So, um, Dave, how are you gonna go about archiving the old threads, and when do you expect it to be finished?

[FamiliarFreak]

We're done.  Everything has been archived.  We're starting with a fresh, clean slate.
Dave

[lament of an indian]

Originally posted by FamiliarFreak@Oct 26 2005, 08:25 PM
We're done.  Everything has been archived.  We're starting with a fresh, clean slate.
Dave

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Uh...So, everything that has been posted for the past 2-3 years is gone?  All the picture threads, all the concert threads flooded with great info are gone?  And considering the main contributers of those threads don't post anymore, thats a shame.  Hmm...Maybe make an archive forum so we can search for old topics?

[Prodigal Son]

Originally posted by lament of an indian+Oct 26 2005, 09:28 PM-->

Uh...So, everything that has been posted for the past 2-3 years is gone?  All the picture threads, all the concert threads flooded with great info are gone?  And considering the main contributers of those threads don't post anymore, thats a shame.  Hmm...Maybe make an archive forum so we can search for old topics?

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Hmmm. well, maybe this'll intice them to come back.

[jim4371]

How do you mean "archived" Dave?

[justlikepam]

Originally posted by lament of an indian+Oct 26 2005, 05:28 PM-->

Uh...So, everything that has been posted for the past 2-3 years is gone?  All the picture threads, all the concert threads flooded with great info are gone?  And considering the main contributers of those threads don't post anymore, thats a shame.  Hmm...Maybe make an archive forum so we can search for old topics?

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I agree.....with you man....I would also like to see a forum with the old topics
from years past....highly appreciate.  And all the picture threads too...much
valuable information I would like to see again.

[FamiliarFreak]

Originally posted by lament of an indian@Oct 26 2005, 08:28 PM
Uh...So, everything that has been posted for the past 2-3 years is gone?  All the picture threads, all the concert threads flooded with great info are gone?  And considering the main contributers of those threads don't post anymore, thats a shame.  Hmm...Maybe make an archive forum so we can search for old topics?

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You're correct.  It's gone.  Tabula rosa.  We're starting out fresh.  The Doors wanted it that way.  Intermixed with all that old info were a lot of old attitudes which The Doors don't want.   Both are gone.  Time to build it up again.
Dave

[TheDoorsMusic]

A fresh, clean slate.    

[justlikepam]

Originally posted by FamiliarFreak+Oct 26 2005, 05:33 PM-->

You're correct.  It's gone.  Tabula rosa.  We're starting out fresh.  The Doors wanted it that way.  Intermixed with all that old info were a lot of old attitudes which The Doors don't want.   Both are gone.  Time to build it up again.
Dave

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[/b]

Okay than...Starting fresh is good....Thank you.

[lament of an indian]

Originally posted by FamiliarFreak+Oct 26 2005, 08:33 PM-->

You're correct.  It's gone.  Tabula rosa.  We're starting out fresh.  The Doors wanted it that way.  Intermixed with all that old info were a lot of old attitudes which The Doors don't want.   Both are gone.  Time to build it up again.
Dave

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Thats too bad.  One of the reasons I came here was to search for old threads with the myriad amount of information.  Also, it was my excuse when people made shitty threads.  Good luck with building it up again, all the top posters have left :peace:  Old Stone Road is a mighty fine road...

[FamiliarFreak]

I think we'll be fine.  If you decide to contribute, that would be great.  If you decide not to, that's great too.  It's all up to you.  Either way, we'll be here with all the fans.  
Best,
Dave

[Kostis]

To be honest I didn't feel like there was a hostile environment, but on the other
hand 've been away for a good few months.

The good thing though is, that Ray, John and Robby joined their voices for a common purpose

:cheers:



A fresh start is always welcome!

[moshdaddy]

Thank you all so much for this. The signal to noise ratio was a little tooo much lately.

While I am sad to see the archive of the board to be put offline...I completely understand.


Thank you Jeff, Dave, and the Doors for giving us the forum back!

Mosh

[BlueSunday23]

I have to say the elimination of the informative threads is a total waste.  Many know filled posts have been totally flushed down the drain.  I know myself and other often checked the past threads for their wealths of doors knowledge.