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#121 carrion

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 01:28 AM

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TO ALL DOORS FANS, BOARDS MEMBERS AND MODERATORS

Here is a personal message to all of you from Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger:


When we first envisioned the creation of The Doors Message Boards we had a purpose in mind –-- to foster a place for Doors fans from all over the world to come, be part of a community, and contribute to the legacy of The Doors, as well as provide a safe haven that offered support, understanding and a common, shared purpose: Love of The Doors, Jim Morrison, his poetry, our music, and everything The Doors stand for as a group. We have watched with concern as the message boards have been usurped in their purpose and, through the negativity of several members, have devolved into hate, recrimination and plain old mean-spiritedness. This is no longer a community we can support.

As The Doors, we have had personal disagreements with each other, and we have differing feelings and opinions regarding several issues that are important to us. However, we also have well over thirty years of history with each other and have had, many times over our decades together, differing viewpoints on important issues. This has never stopped us from stating our views, both personally and as Doors members – and it has never stopped us from working together towards our one common goal: the support, concern, and fostering of THE DOORS as a band.

Yes, we have each been guilty of some of the same things we see happening on the boards. Yes, we have each stumbled and sometimes said things in anger that we later regretted. We are not saints, and we are not asking you to be, either. However, The Doors are bigger than any of us individually, and we are all committed to bringing the legacy, the principles we believe in as a band, and the music of The Doors forward for the next generations to come. We have, sometimes with great difficulty and inner turmoil, put our personal feelings aside in order to cooperate in this endeavor. Now we are asking each of you to do the same.

We have decided to make some changes to our message boards. Many of you have strong opinions on issues that are important to you. We encourage you to express your opinions, but to do so IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF LOVE AND SUPPORT, contributing to a positive, uplifting environment where all Doors fans can come. We are not interested in supporting an environment where participants are called names, ridiculed, or viciously attacked, whether the target be any one of you, us, our management team, our advisors or anyone else.

To help in this endeavor, effective immediately we are moving the 'Riders on the Storm' board, and all individual member and member project threads, off of The Doors Message Boards and onto each member’s own website. You may go to these individual websites to discuss your opinions about 'Riders on the Storm', Tribaljazz, The Butts Band, The Robby Krieger Band, and other issues not related to The Doors as a whole. However, none of us will tolerate rude behavior on our individual sites, either. We are not interested in anyone coming here to ridicule any one of us, or any of you, for any reason. If you want to do that, find another forum – it’s a free country and a wide world, but here on The Doors Message Boards and on our individual boards, it will not be tolerated.

We have instructed our manager, Jeff Jampol, to watch over the boards, and to permanently ban any member making incendiary or name-calling attacks in their posts. His word will be final and irrevocable. If you disagree with anything that is going on, or with an individual band member’s stance on an issue, we are not censoring you – you are free to speak your mind, in a positive, uplifting, contributory way.

Don’t forget, we have been brothers-in-arms for well over three decades, and none of us is willing to let outsiders or fans come between us, even though we may have attacked each other in the past. That is sometimes - sadly - what brothers do. Yes, there have been a lot of hurt feelings among us, angry sentiments, even bitter infighting that may take a long time to heal – if ever. But we all stand together when it comes to The Doors, and the legacy we wish to leave behind, and we will close ranks to defend against any attacks from outside our inner circle, no matter who the target – or the attacker - may be.

If you wish to go sound off and attack The Doors – or any one of us - feel free to do so, but not on The Doors Message Boards, which we finance and make available to you as a service. We do, however, look forward to continuing to facilitate the spirited discussions among our fans, and even our critics, that we have come to appreciate. Just leave the personal animosities, name-calling, accusations and viciousness at home. Or write to your congressperson!

Love -

Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger
THE DOORS


So, if you have entrusted Jeff Jampol to pay more attention to his role as traffic cop, why do you continue to delay restoring Severed Garden? Your verbosity consists mainly of fumes of groovy incense, not logic.

#122 mewsical

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 01:32 AM

Oy! rolleyes.gif

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 01:38 AM

carrion babe, Have patience a little while longer. tongue.gif
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Posted 07 March 2007 - 02:23 AM

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What? You think I should hold out until after my transplant? Jampol & Co. have been gaming us all for many months now. By the way, my original post seems to have disappeared. I can't imagine where it went.

The Manzarek spin cycle doesn't wash. In fact, it smells bad.

c.


uhhh No.. I just think you should be patient for the open forum board to be open back up.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:51 AM

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I think you're deluded, little child. As long as we play nice and don't disrupt Jeffy boy, he has no reason to defend the fact that Severed Garden is DEAD. Do you understand, Dotkins? Unless you take an advocacy role, here and now, Jeff has you where he wants you--and that is, not making waves.

So if you don't want the Garden to suddenly reappear, then continue doing the Jeff pacification trip, dig. He wants that you should not want the Garden back enough to confront him about it. Understand? He doesn't want to be exposed as the charlatan he is. He is banking on you and all his other admins to back-pedal about Severed Garden, as you have faithfully done, because he has no intention of bringing it back. Get it? You are being played for a fool.

And I really don't have time for your foolishness.


Well, that's condescending/patronizing/call Dr. Phil/I have masculinity issues.
And Dot is supposed to be an advocate for ... ?  You guys? :dunce:

Yup, all advocates support a cause so they can get a little face-slapping as a reward.  Surely, if you want someone to support your position, slagging them off is hardly the way to go.

You had my attention until your last line.  Too peevish to be persuasive.  You sound like a spurned lover.

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 05:19 PM

"charlatan" is a great word.

especially when spelled correctly.
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 01:22 AM

As Dylan Thomas would say - the color of saying.

#128 kimi2kewl

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 04:18 AM

I would totally love to meet and greet all of the doors...
big dream come true for me.
please send us fans your email addressess at least.
with much love and R.E.S.P.E.C.T....
thanx.
love and xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxos

#129 Villiem

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 06:01 PM

Feeling Good Is Good Enough.
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Thanks.

#130 harleykyns

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 01:02 AM

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So does this mean no critisism of The Doors?  For example, I don't like Tell All the People.  Or do you mean to say you won't tolerate bashing of the band and/or it's members?
if we are not allowed our opions and our right t critizizm then why are we here the doors face many critics and ther still going strong so lets just respect what they have to say and not abuse the freedom we have to express ourselfs.

#131 CHINA JOE

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 02:49 AM

i still dont get why some of the posters here get pissed over trival matters(i by no means am saying i am absolvant of this). i pretty sure no one is saying you cannot voice your opinion, just be intelligent about the way you post. think of it in philosophical terms: if your argument has no merit, then why even voice it?  saying you dislike something, but not providing a reason is weak-ass shit.

as an example, we all prefer certain doors material over others. one cannot like all the songs on the same level because every song, after you initial exposure to it, says something to you the listener.  one will also grow to enjoy and appreciate other tracks over the course of time. then you have the tracks you just plain dont like, and probably never will. everything must be this way. the line between critiquing and criticizing is a fine line, and sometimes its both at once. both can be a good thing as our eyes are potentially opened to different points of view.

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Posted 21 June 2007 - 03:06 AM

dedicted to the doors
whole hearted 100% all
the way cheers

#133 StrangeNightOfStone

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:03 AM

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Strange, I rarely see any bashing or aggressive remarks whatsoever on these boards...






Doors fans are good people- we have a unique bond- the love of the music that ties us together- so people if many nationalities or affilations have this connection- In the past, when discussion strayed outside the topic of the music, to controversial issues such as religion or policics , people with opposing views sometimes forgot the music, and the claws came out- But i should think that was rare...
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 11:35 AM

[QUOTE=StrangeNightOfStone;322732]Doors fans are good people- we have a unique bond- the love of the music that ties us together- so people if many nationalities or affilations have this connection- In the past, when discussion strayed outside the topic of the music, to controversial issues such as religion or policics , people with opposing views sometimes forgot the music, and the claws came out- But i should think that was rare...

What do you mean"good people"?
Look where we worship.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 12:27 PM

As we are in the 40th anniversary of the "Summer of Love", let's us not forget the magic of that summer.  The Doors always brought that message to the masses whenever and whereever they played.

Keep the Faith.

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#136 Mechelle-Nalchik

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 10:30 AM

Hi there!
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Posted 09 September 2007 - 11:00 PM

Welcome to the board Mechelle-Nalchik. Maybe you can upload the picture to photobucket, then you'll be able to post it up here.
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#139 statham89

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:19 AM

i dont see how anyone could come on this site to personaly bash this band, if so, why are you here? I am grateful for this board to show my repect to the band and to express how they make feel

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 02:50 PM

Dear Ray, Robby and John,I concur to this.Although it is a bit ridiculous to have to say "now play nice children". Jim would abhor such behaviour.The entire generation was an embodiment of peace,love and harmony.Childishness should be left outside.But I do have a question specifically for John.how did it feel in the movie when you were looking out of the sound booth at Val Kilmer and said "yeah Jim,I got it". at the end of the movie.SURREAL does'nt even begin to come close I'm guessing.And I can recite most all of The Doors lyrics (including The End) and a great deal of Jim's poetry off the top of my head.I have managed to memorize it.My ultimate dream is to sing The End while all three of you guys play.Incidently,Robby is the most underestimated, and fantasically wonderful guitarist.All three of you are true artists in your own right.It's a shame that at times you were a bit overshadowed by Jim's personna,yet all three of you and your talent shone through.I just want to humbly say thank you for giving us wonderful music.And...thank you for putting Jim's poetry to music.A stroke of genius.I'll fly out to california in a heart-beat and sing for you,and read you my book of poetry.(Beat Zen Mind) which incidently is dedicated to jim.
LOVE YOU GUYS.
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